Cost Effective Stage 1 Remap?
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Cost Effective Stage 1 Remap?
Ok, I am pretty new to messing with EFI on bikes. I am looking to do a Stage 1 upgrade on my 09 XL1200N. I will either be doing the SE Stage 1 AC (running an AMSOIL filter on it) or Roland Sands AC and then V&H Big Radius 2 into 2. I am a little confused on the EFI remap though. Just talked to the dealer about the cost of just the EFI remap and was told they want $280 just to do the straight download and $1050 for the SERT with Dyno time. The price just sounds nuts to me. I really would rather make ECU adjustments than to add a tandem box. What are some effective options here? Also, is a remap really required after just doing the AC upgrade? More than likely I will do the AC upgrade first and pipes several months down the road. I would rather wait to mess with the EFI until after the pipes are on.
Also, before anyone says anything, I did search but didn't come up with anything that valuable.
Also, before anyone says anything, I did search but didn't come up with anything that valuable.
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You do not need to do the remap if you are going to do just the a/c with stock pipes. Harley doesn't offer the stage 1 download anymore so if they are trying to sell it to you they shouldn't be. The most cost effective way I would say would be the fuelpak and then the power commander. Both can be adjusted for your particular set up and are easy to get your a bike a good base tune that it will run good on. The power commander is dyno tunable if you decide down the road you want to get all you can out of the tune. The fuelpak is not dynotunable and you just punch in the values they give for your set up.
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try a techlusion TFI. simple installation and easy to adjust even for someone without a lot of experience with bikes. I think I paid about $175.00 for mine and I have to say I really like it. It's easy, smaller than most the other add on fuel adjusters, and customer service is great. They will walk you through the whole installation by phone if you needed it. Probably won't need to do all that though really pretty simple.
http://www.techlusion.com/TFI/adjustTFI.asp
just my opinion but works great for me.
http://www.techlusion.com/TFI/adjustTFI.asp
just my opinion but works great for me.
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I'm in your situation now, I ordered a sest off of ebay for $350, plus the software and cable. I'm going to try one one of the canned maps until I can get it dynoed. My local hd quoted me $288 for a dyno tune. I ordered the training dvd as well, I'm thinking maybe I can find some place where I can tune it on the street.
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I was over on the XLforums (sportsters only forum) and was telling someone their options as far as adjusting the fuel trims for the stage 1 and I mentioned the download. I then was bombarded by people posting and saying that the download no longer exists, and a couple of members bombarding me were Harley service shop techs. I have never heard anyone mention it not being available on this site and figured I would spread it over here. But as you can tell from your experience and others that have posted on this thread, it must still be available.
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I have a PC III on my bike with a dyno tune and love it. I tryed to use the maps on there site, but the bike would not run just right and it would get hto till I had it dyno tuned. I have nothing bad to say about the PC III. I got it for $292 shipped form www.morepowerracing.com