Another Biketronics Install...2015 Ultra
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Another Biketronics Install...2015 Ultra
My BT kit is being delivered tomorrow. Will consist of the following:
4180.14 amp
BT7.1(non pro) upper fairing speakers
BT 6.5 in the tour pack pods with Vtwin audio adapters(unless someone has figured a cheaper solution to fit them)
People at BT were so great, nice, patient and helpful! I'll get into more details as I proceed.
Came home a little early because I wanted to start taking the bike apart. You guys scared the heck out of me talking about how hard the three nasty bolts were to get out.
Took the tank off
Then I move the driving lights to the lower bolt and snug it down a little to keep them out of the way
Then remove the windshield then fairing
Now for the right speaker pod. Come on guys it's not THAT hard(but thanks to all! Without you I would not have known that there was 3, lol). You can actually get a 3/8 drive socket and ratchet into the upper rear bolt without any extension or swivel if you just unhook this connection, you know, the one that's in the way, lol.
A 1/4" socket, swivel and ratchet without a long or flex extension takes out the upper front and the bottom was the easiest. Took about 15 minutes including gathering tools. Now maybe a SG and or RG is set up different but my(non wet head) ultra was a piece of cake.
The left side was even easier with the same method because there was more room.
Now that everything is off its going to be a good time to clean the rocker boxes and everything else that's hard to clean with the tank on
Then I'll clean inside the fairing and treat the fairing gaskets with some 303 aerospace protectant
I'm sure I'll have questions installing and hooking everything up, I'll post more as I install. Thanks to everyone here that has posted valuable information and experience, it's helped me get to this point.
Edit: can anyone see my picture?
Well, I posted this from my phone using the "garage talk" app. I can see my pics in the full forum but not on the app, weird?
4180.14 amp
BT7.1(non pro) upper fairing speakers
BT 6.5 in the tour pack pods with Vtwin audio adapters(unless someone has figured a cheaper solution to fit them)
People at BT were so great, nice, patient and helpful! I'll get into more details as I proceed.
Came home a little early because I wanted to start taking the bike apart. You guys scared the heck out of me talking about how hard the three nasty bolts were to get out.
Took the tank off
Then I move the driving lights to the lower bolt and snug it down a little to keep them out of the way
Then remove the windshield then fairing
Now for the right speaker pod. Come on guys it's not THAT hard(but thanks to all! Without you I would not have known that there was 3, lol). You can actually get a 3/8 drive socket and ratchet into the upper rear bolt without any extension or swivel if you just unhook this connection, you know, the one that's in the way, lol.
A 1/4" socket, swivel and ratchet without a long or flex extension takes out the upper front and the bottom was the easiest. Took about 15 minutes including gathering tools. Now maybe a SG and or RG is set up different but my(non wet head) ultra was a piece of cake.
The left side was even easier with the same method because there was more room.
Now that everything is off its going to be a good time to clean the rocker boxes and everything else that's hard to clean with the tank on
Then I'll clean inside the fairing and treat the fairing gaskets with some 303 aerospace protectant
I'm sure I'll have questions installing and hooking everything up, I'll post more as I install. Thanks to everyone here that has posted valuable information and experience, it's helped me get to this point.
Edit: can anyone see my picture?
Well, I posted this from my phone using the "garage talk" app. I can see my pics in the full forum but not on the app, weird?
Last edited by Greatsteaks; 03-17-2016 at 06:49 PM.
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allen6747 (04-12-2016)
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Off to a good start, not only that you are right on time!
LL247 (Jason) Should be shipping my setup here in a day or 2...
I went with the BT4180 amp also but decided to try (4) of the Arc Moto 602's
I have a 14 Ultra so your wright up will be of great help!
I haven't found anyone...yet running 4 602's in the (Fairing & Tour Pack) needless to say I'm eager to get installing & thumping!
BTW your pic's are nice...easy to see, will need to see more...thanks!
LL247 (Jason) Should be shipping my setup here in a day or 2...
I went with the BT4180 amp also but decided to try (4) of the Arc Moto 602's
I have a 14 Ultra so your wright up will be of great help!
I haven't found anyone...yet running 4 602's in the (Fairing & Tour Pack) needless to say I'm eager to get installing & thumping!
BTW your pic's are nice...easy to see, will need to see more...thanks!
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Well, got the brackets on, the spacer mod and speakers installed.
Then the Amp, installed and wired up. Turned it on with the stock rear speakers still in because the alpines haven't been delivered yet. Set the fader to front only and turned the volume up and.......Sounded like crap, no base and not clear at all. Faded it to the rear and the stock rear speakers sound way better then the front BT 6.5's, WTF??? Called BT and talked to Bill, did a bunch of troubleshooting by swapping plugs around. Turns out the front radio output coming out of the break out harness sounds like crap. Run the front speakers off the rear output and sounds much much better. Bill is stumped thinking its a polarity problem. I'm just going to run the front on the rear output and rear on the front till Bill figures out what's up. Probably going to try a new break out harness. Now need to tidy this wire mess up. I'll post more pics tomorrow,
Then the Amp, installed and wired up. Turned it on with the stock rear speakers still in because the alpines haven't been delivered yet. Set the fader to front only and turned the volume up and.......Sounded like crap, no base and not clear at all. Faded it to the rear and the stock rear speakers sound way better then the front BT 6.5's, WTF??? Called BT and talked to Bill, did a bunch of troubleshooting by swapping plugs around. Turns out the front radio output coming out of the break out harness sounds like crap. Run the front speakers off the rear output and sounds much much better. Bill is stumped thinking its a polarity problem. I'm just going to run the front on the rear output and rear on the front till Bill figures out what's up. Probably going to try a new break out harness. Now need to tidy this wire mess up. I'll post more pics tomorrow,
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Well, got the brackets on, the spacer mod and speakers installed.
Attachment 464363
Attachment 464364
Then the Amp, installed and wired up. Turned it on with the stock rear speakers still in because the alpines haven't been delivered yet. Set the fader to front only and turned the volume up and.......Sounded like crap, no base and not clear at all. Faded it to the rear and the stock rear speakers sound way better then the front BT 6.5's, WTF??? Called BT and talked to Bill, did a bunch of troubleshooting by swapping plugs around. Turns out the front radio output coming out of the break out harness sounds like crap. Run the front speakers off the rear output and sounds much much better. Bill is stumped thinking its a polarity problem. I'm just going to run the front on the rear output and rear on the front till Bill figures out what's up. Probably going to try a new break out harness. Now need to tidy this wire mess up. I'll post more pics tomorrow,
Attachment 464363
Attachment 464364
Then the Amp, installed and wired up. Turned it on with the stock rear speakers still in because the alpines haven't been delivered yet. Set the fader to front only and turned the volume up and.......Sounded like crap, no base and not clear at all. Faded it to the rear and the stock rear speakers sound way better then the front BT 6.5's, WTF??? Called BT and talked to Bill, did a bunch of troubleshooting by swapping plugs around. Turns out the front radio output coming out of the break out harness sounds like crap. Run the front speakers off the rear output and sounds much much better. Bill is stumped thinking its a polarity problem. I'm just going to run the front on the rear output and rear on the front till Bill figures out what's up. Probably going to try a new break out harness. Now need to tidy this wire mess up. I'll post more pics tomorrow,
I continue to promote BikeTronics and I would not consider any other system for my bike.
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Then the Amp, installed and wired up. Turned it on with the stock rear speakers still in because the alpines haven't been delivered yet. Set the fader to front only and turned the volume up and.......Sounded like crap, no base and not clear at all. Faded it to the rear and the stock rear speakers sound way better then the front BT 6.5's, WTF??? Called BT and talked to Bill, did a bunch of troubleshooting by swapping plugs around. Turns out the front radio output coming out of the break out harness sounds like crap. Run the front speakers off the rear output and sounds much much better. Bill is stumped thinking its a polarity problem. I'm just going to run the front on the rear output and rear on the front till Bill figures out what's up. Probably going to try a new break out harness. Now need to tidy this wire mess up. I'll post more pics tomorrow,
Plug the front LL into Molex outputs.
Connect the RCA's from the LL to the front inputs on the amp.
Then connect the speakers wires from the front outputs on the amp to the speakers making sure polarity is correct.
You won't have rear speakers but if the front speakers sound as they should then you know there is a problem with the BO harness.
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Originally Posted by Bertk
Did you try taking the BO harness out of the picture?
Plug the front LL into Molex outputs.
Connect the RCA's from the LL to the front inputs on the amp.
Then connect the speakers wires from the front outputs on the amp to the speakers making sure polarity is correct.
You won't have rear speakers but if the front speakers sound as they should then you know there is a problem with the BO harness.
Plug the front LL into Molex outputs.
Connect the RCA's from the LL to the front inputs on the amp.
Then connect the speakers wires from the front outputs on the amp to the speakers making sure polarity is correct.
You won't have rear speakers but if the front speakers sound as they should then you know there is a problem with the BO harness.
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Well I did it a different way. Eliminated the amp. I plugged the BO harness plugs together making everything run strait through and had the same problem, rear was louder and no base. Then I removed the BO plugged the bike harness back like stock. Front and back were same loudness and base. It must be this BO harness.
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