Upgraded factory sounds need help tuning amp
#11
Originally Posted by CVOJOE
No...listen to what Gann's saying, it's not really enough. Your headunit starts distorting at about 3/4 volume. So in a perfect world the RF would only be putting our about 75 Watts RMS at 3/4 volume. you need at least 100 watts RMS per channel at 3/4 volume to really make those speakers perform like their capable of doing
That JL amp he gave you a link to will do this
That JL amp he gave you a link to will do this
Not bashing on you at all PJ. If you don't know you don't know.
#12
It's about balancing or matching the components so that they work together- much like motor performance work.
I have good results on my bike because i have different speakers- I use the Infinity Kappas 6.5" ( amazon $100) which are more efficient than the HCX.
with an equal amount of watts applied to the speakers, the Kappas will be 2 dB louder than the HCX- which is a good amount
also the kappas are 2 ohm- the pbr330x2 is rated at 150 watts at 2 ohm, so my amp isnt working as hard
what I have is a pretty good moderate system, where the parts are well matched. pretty good bang for buck, I can hear well at highway speeds* and the tonality is pretty even
as I said before you could be ok for moderate volumes-
if you have the system in and working, just take it easy for awhile.
and maybe consider that other amp
Mike
* for long periods of time, I use earbuds wired to my stereo- music in, noise out
#13
No...listen to what Gann's saying, it's not really enough. Your headunit starts distorting at about 3/4 volume. So in a perfect world the RF would only be putting our about 75 Watts RMS at 3/4 volume. you need at least 100 watts RMS per channel at 3/4 volume to really make those speakers perform like their capable of doing
That JL amp he gave you a link to will do this
That JL amp he gave you a link to will do this
#14
What amp can you point me in the direction of? It won't be anything for me to purchase a new amp, I actually got this one for a smoking deal (70 bux) so it's not like I'm losing much, I JUST really want those speakers to sound like they should. I really want an amp that's gonna be able to fit inside the fairing like the punch. I forgot to mention there's an inline converter on them also, what should those dials be tuned at?
Thanks again for all the info, GREAT STUFF!!
Thanks again for all the info, GREAT STUFF!!
PM if interested
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#16
Just out of curiosity....a few years ago, I read on this forum that the Rockford Fosgate PBR 200 and the Infinity Kappas 62.11's were the perfect match and bang for the buck. Now from what I'm reading is that the PBR 200 isn't cutting it for the Kappas. I'd prefer to keep the RF but if I'm not getting the most out of it due to something better, then inform me what would be a better match $$ wise. Thanks.
#17
Just out of curiosity....a few years ago, I read on this forum that the Rockford Fosgate PBR 200 and the Infinity Kappas 62.11's were the perfect match and bang for the buck. Now from what I'm reading is that the PBR 200 isn't cutting it for the Kappas. I'd prefer to keep the RF but if I'm not getting the most out of it due to something better, then inform me what would be a better match $$ wise. Thanks.
seriously though, for the budget minded build I absolutely still recommend both of those components. There is ALWAYS going to be something better, more shiny, more feature-rich, etc. Figure out what you want up front both expectation wise and budget wise and go from there.
The PBR300x2 is by all means a great amp and paired with the Kappas, is still a great combination. The problem I see with some of these builds is people grossly mis-matching products and moreso, their expectations. You gotta figure out what you want up front.
Last edited by UltraNutZ; 02-24-2017 at 07:18 AM.
#18
times, products, and opinions change like i change underwear, almost daily.
Seriously though, for the budget minded build i absolutely still recommend both of those components. There is always going to be something better, more shiny, more feature-rich, etc. Figure out what you want up front both expectation wise and budget wise and go from there.
The pbr300x2 is by all means a great amp and paired with the kappas, is still a great combination. The problem i see with some of these builds is people grossly mis-matching products and moreso, their expectations. You gotta figure out what you want up front.
Seriously though, for the budget minded build i absolutely still recommend both of those components. There is always going to be something better, more shiny, more feature-rich, etc. Figure out what you want up front both expectation wise and budget wise and go from there.
The pbr300x2 is by all means a great amp and paired with the kappas, is still a great combination. The problem i see with some of these builds is people grossly mis-matching products and moreso, their expectations. You gotta figure out what you want up front.
^^ that is key!!!!
#19
hold the phone!
I see above where you mention a line level converter being used to move the speaker leads from head unit to RCAs and then into the amp. If you're using a line level converter with this amp, you're robbing yourself of quite a bit of power. Those RCAs on these PBR amps are happy seeing 4+ volts as input voltage and that line-level converter ain't getting you anywhere near that.
Take that line level converter out of the equation and wire your speaker leads from head unit directly into amp. You're going to notice a HUGE difference.
I see above where you mention a line level converter being used to move the speaker leads from head unit to RCAs and then into the amp. If you're using a line level converter with this amp, you're robbing yourself of quite a bit of power. Those RCAs on these PBR amps are happy seeing 4+ volts as input voltage and that line-level converter ain't getting you anywhere near that.
Take that line level converter out of the equation and wire your speaker leads from head unit directly into amp. You're going to notice a HUGE difference.
#20
hold the phone!
I see above where you mention a line level converter being used to move the speaker leads from head unit to RCAs and then into the amp. If you're using a line level converter with this amp, you're robbing yourself of quite a bit of power. Those RCAs on these PBR amps are happy seeing 4+ volts as input voltage and that line-level converter ain't getting you anywhere near that.
Take that line level converter out of the equation and wire your speaker leads from head unit directly into amp. You're going to notice a HUGE difference.
I see above where you mention a line level converter being used to move the speaker leads from head unit to RCAs and then into the amp. If you're using a line level converter with this amp, you're robbing yourself of quite a bit of power. Those RCAs on these PBR amps are happy seeing 4+ volts as input voltage and that line-level converter ain't getting you anywhere near that.
Take that line level converter out of the equation and wire your speaker leads from head unit directly into amp. You're going to notice a HUGE difference.
The converter that is wired into my bike is a SCOSCHE LOC80,