Finally got my starting issue on video!
#61
i watched your video, and once my bike gets warmed up and i stop for gas ect. it will do that. Always makes me think someday ill get stuck and it just wont start. Sometimes with mine though, i get a loud CLUNK noise then it will start up. Sometimes it seems to wheeze cough and sneeze a few times as well as the power down thing yours is doing before it starts. One thing i know for certain, it ALWAYS does it when its hot and NEVER does it when its cold. I have no idea why that is.
#62
Just an FYI. Mine did it after a gas stop on a hot day last week. I've been hooking the battery up to a tender whenever it's parked in the garage since last year or I'm confident I would have been stranded. I am told one of the negatives of fuel injection over a carb is you cannot push and pop the clutch to start the injected bike if the battery is dead. Electronic fuel injection needs electronics to inject the fuel. True?
#63
A weak battery can be push started, I've seen it done twice but it's a pain in the ***. The bike needs to have enough voltage for the ECM and the fuel pump to function. But the engine will still need at least three revolutions for the ECM to read the crank position sensor and attempt to fire.
A dead battery wouldn't start if you pulled the bike behind your pick up truck.
A dead battery wouldn't start if you pulled the bike behind your pick up truck.
#64
Just an FYI. Mine did it after a gas stop on a hot day last week. I've been hooking the battery up to a tender whenever it's parked in the garage since last year or I'm confident I would have been stranded. I am told one of the negatives of fuel injection over a carb is you cannot push and pop the clutch to start the injected bike if the battery is dead. Electronic fuel injection needs electronics to inject the fuel. True?
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#66
My bet is that you wouldn't be able to bump start a carbed TC also.. You can bump start either if there is some voltage in the battery. Carbed might get away with a lower voltage. There has to be enough power in the battery for the fuel pump to prime the system with EFI..
#67
#68
Cleared with an aftermarket battery.
I started getting this error on my 2015 FXDWG six months after I bought the bike. It would start really hard in the mornings, and throw the error, even though it was on a tender all night.
After leaving it with the dealer 3 different times, they found a dead cell in the battery and replaced it. The bike ran fine for a few months, and then the same error and hard starting came up again.
This time they kept the bike for a day, and they said everything was fine, and made me buy a new tender from them, and told me to put it on the tender for a couple of days. I knew they were pulling my chain, but went along just to eliminate one more excuse. Meanwhile the error started coming up more frequently, and occurred almost at every startup.
I finally got sick of this and went to a local motorcycle service shop, where they went through the bike with a meter and checked the charging system, ground connections and everything checked out fine. I finally told the guy to f*** it and throw in a new battery.
I got a Drag Specialities AGM battery rated at 310 CCA, and the bike has never started up so eagerly since I bought it. I touch the starter and it is rearing to go!
I felt bad about paying someone to fix a bike that is still under warranty, but I don't regret the money spent when the bike fires up right away.
After leaving it with the dealer 3 different times, they found a dead cell in the battery and replaced it. The bike ran fine for a few months, and then the same error and hard starting came up again.
This time they kept the bike for a day, and they said everything was fine, and made me buy a new tender from them, and told me to put it on the tender for a couple of days. I knew they were pulling my chain, but went along just to eliminate one more excuse. Meanwhile the error started coming up more frequently, and occurred almost at every startup.
I finally got sick of this and went to a local motorcycle service shop, where they went through the bike with a meter and checked the charging system, ground connections and everything checked out fine. I finally told the guy to f*** it and throw in a new battery.
I got a Drag Specialities AGM battery rated at 310 CCA, and the bike has never started up so eagerly since I bought it. I touch the starter and it is rearing to go!
I felt bad about paying someone to fix a bike that is still under warranty, but I don't regret the money spent when the bike fires up right away.
#69
I started getting this error on my 2015 FXDWG six months after I bought the bike. It would start really hard in the mornings, and throw the error, even though it was on a tender all night.
After leaving it with the dealer 3 different times, they found a dead cell in the battery and replaced it. The bike ran fine for a few months, and then the same error and hard starting came up again.
This time they kept the bike for a day, and they said everything was fine, and made me buy a new tender from them, and told me to put it on the tender for a couple of days. I knew they were pulling my chain, but went along just to eliminate one more excuse. Meanwhile the error started coming up more frequently, and occurred almost at every startup.
I finally got sick of this and went to a local motorcycle service shop, where they went through the bike with a meter and checked the charging system, ground connections and everything checked out fine. I finally told the guy to f*** it and throw in a new battery.
I got a Drag Specialities AGM battery rated at 310 CCA, and the bike has never started up so eagerly since I bought it. I touch the starter and it is rearing to go!
I felt bad about paying someone to fix a bike that is still under warranty, but I don't regret the money spent when the bike fires up right away.
After leaving it with the dealer 3 different times, they found a dead cell in the battery and replaced it. The bike ran fine for a few months, and then the same error and hard starting came up again.
This time they kept the bike for a day, and they said everything was fine, and made me buy a new tender from them, and told me to put it on the tender for a couple of days. I knew they were pulling my chain, but went along just to eliminate one more excuse. Meanwhile the error started coming up more frequently, and occurred almost at every startup.
I finally got sick of this and went to a local motorcycle service shop, where they went through the bike with a meter and checked the charging system, ground connections and everything checked out fine. I finally told the guy to f*** it and throw in a new battery.
I got a Drag Specialities AGM battery rated at 310 CCA, and the bike has never started up so eagerly since I bought it. I touch the starter and it is rearing to go!
I felt bad about paying someone to fix a bike that is still under warranty, but I don't regret the money spent when the bike fires up right away.
and, other than the charging system, have one thing in common: regularly using a battery tender
ya think there might be something to that? I do.
I also went through a series of intermittent WTF battery related starting problems when I replaced a 40 month old battery that never saw a tender until the final months with a new battery. I kept using the tender on the new battery and started getting problems about 4 months later. Finally did what you did and put a new battery in and it has never been on the tender...and it is working muy bueno!
Take it off the tender if you are riding regular. Put it on occasionally if you are not. What do you have to lose?
#70
You know what sucks? My new Road Glide starts right up, every time. Hot or cold. After a long ride and stopping for gas (notoriously bad for the Dyna) or after sitting for days w/no tender. I wish I could get the LR-S to start like that without spending $400 on a LiFePo battery. No option for a tender where I am. Condo won't allow an outlet to be installed in the common parking garage. I tried, request denied. So instead I installed a tender designed to be used as a jump start cable and have a pocket sized booster pack.
Different brand, like this but has SAE connector that will work with a tender as well: http://www.thepodx.com/Motorcycle-Ju...nder-cable.htm
Different brand, like this but has SAE connector that will work with a tender as well: http://www.thepodx.com/Motorcycle-Ju...nder-cable.htm