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Old 10-17-2013, 01:52 AM
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Its probably cold and ***** outside, so you might as well read this.

Havent seen my wife in about a week: searching this out & setups seem to be diverging from the direction/application I have. Looking for some comments/additional insite to mill over & research.

I have a 2014 WG, with under 500 miles on it. I’m not concerned about warranty issues.

I am budget minded on this, not that I have a specific limit but its also not endless. Looking for a street performer 103 that will retain reliability and not eat starters or turn into an endless chain of mods just to make it run right. Also no displacement changes or gear driven cams.

I have the VnH Big Raidus 2 and basic Stage I (like the pipes and plan to keep them)
Im leaning twards staying with SE CAMs, I think they can do what I want. From what I gather it looks like I could go this way, with the SEPST and not have to dyno.

So that said here is the combination I was thinking of:
SE Heavy duty clutch spring
SE Fat plug wires
SEPST
SE Heavy Breather
SE 204 CAM

I don’t like the idea of adjustable push rods and Im fine with going in from the top. That said can I keep the stock, or should I replace them?

Its has been mentioned to go with SE 1.725 rockers when running similar setups, I really have no clue.

Also have read about SE High compression plugs, or a .030 head gasket. Not sure if it’s a recommendation for a 103 & the 204 CAM I don’t want to increase compression unless its really necessary. My preference is to not install ACRs.

Also I hear a lot about replacing the cam tensioners, I presume this is for bikes that have some time on them.

I think that is going to about kill my finances, but Im open to consider recommendations.
 
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Old 10-17-2013, 06:22 AM
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The 1.725 rockers will increase the amount of lift that cam has. If you want more lift, just choose a cam with the profile closer to your ideal.

Your motor is around 9.6:1 compression. You probably won't need compression releases until you break the 10:1 barrier. Probably closer to 10.5:1 is where you really need to think about adding them.

I think if you're stuck on SE products, they have "perfect fit" pushrods. Not sure if they are cam-specific. There are cams that are considered "bolt-in". You can reuse your stock pushrods.

The only reason to use a thinner head gasket (.030") is to bump compression. That cam may work best at a range higher than what your stock motor is set at now. It's a cheap way to add a little without breaking the bank.
 
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:50 AM
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I think those are good choices. I did the same thing myself and my numbers are in my sig. I don't ride hard, but at times I like to feel the torque and power and believe me this did it for me. However I think you might want to go with the ACR's it will make life a lot easier on the starter.
 
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In 2011 when the 103 was an option on my SG, it came with automatic compression releases from the factory. So, you may already have them. I'm running Stage 1 with Andrews 48H and no other performance mods. (98/110) I'm sure those numbers would drop with your exhaust.
 
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Ditto on the ACRs, mine came with them when the Fat Bob went to 103" in 2012. If you start messing with the head gasket size( which would be a good idea) you can still use non adustable pushrods but not the ones you got - smaller head gasket > shorter pushrods.
 
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204 is a good cam but not wild, runs well on stock compression and is a bolt-in. 203 is better if you want the power low-mid range and 255's or 265's go well with a 103 too.
 
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I have the 204's in my 96". I like them. i also went thru the top and reused my stock rods. Bike runs good. Quite pleased with it.
 
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stupid question possibly, but how do you know if you have the ACR's? i have a 13 streetbob with the 103, would mine have it?
 
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stupid question possibly, but how do you know if you have the ACR's? i have a 13 streetbob with the 103, would mine have it?
If you have the factory 103 power package, they come with acr stock.
 
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Originally Posted by chester1957
If you have the factory 103 power package, they come with acr stock.
ok, now i'm going to be really stupid...mine came with the 103...is that power package something separate i would have had to have ordered....or are you saying if i got it as a 103 then it has them?
 


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