Moving the slope down to 3 makes a very minor change in the map. Save your 2/4 file and use the "new file" feature to create a 2/3 file and save it as well; print them out and you will see that the differences are minor. Understand plug reading for timing and not suggesting you are advancing timing until she pings and then backing off. Just saying that while there may not be any ping, you may have more timing cranked in that necessary without the benefit of added performance or, at best, a marginal benefit but by pulling timing out, you give up no performance but do reduce operating heat.

If the lifters are bleeding down, the noise you hear will not be from the lifters or lower valve train. The valve train lash will exhibit up top as clearance between the pushrod and rocker arm.

Not saying that the lifters are bleeding down but if you are hearing valve train noise lifter bleed down could be the source; it's not the heat. If you can cool the motor down, it won't be a dramatic reduction in operating temps, maybe 10*-15*, more if you resort to Jason's fans. The valve train noise will likely still be present even with a cooler running motor.

 

Well, if it just a putting around, slow traffic, stopped issue ya may think about fans. Might try riching up the idle/low speed circuits some too... But as ya already noted, these things get hot the more ya mess with them.

 

20w/60 oil and header wrap… (FYI, header wrap is used to keep the heat INSIDE the pipe flowing out. It does not REFLECT heat (like shiny chrome) is CONTAINS heat allowing for a quicker combustion exit.
or, if you have the bucks….
http://swaintech.com/race-coatings/

 

Always used Amsoil before with the same results re: engine noise became louder when the motor got very hot.

Springs are AV&V .650" lift beehives. Upper and lower rocker covers were heavily clearanced at potential spring rub points and also for additional rocker clearance.

Haven't checked pushrods for rubbing, but they are GMR (Smith Bros.) 3/8 dia .120" wall thickness. Being smaller dia and thicker wall, shouldn't rub or flex.

I took djl's advice and reduced the DTT's dial setting for advance slope to "3". Motor seemed to like that. Got home, let it idle for about 5 minutes and used a mechanic's stethoscope to go over the entire motor. Rocker covers, cylinders, pushrod covers, lifter covers, cam cover. Nothing was making abnormal noise.

Beginning to think this noise may be coming from the primary, although it seems higher up when sitting on the bike. Over the winter, I replaced the compensating sprocket and put in a Diamond primary chain. Checked alignment . Also put in a new spring set in the Hayden M-6. Using Redline V-twin 70w80 synthetic primary oil. Don't understand why the primary would get noisier when the motor is hot?

 

Don't putt or stay stopped in traffic much, hippie. I think that you hit it right on the head re: heavily modding a HD motor makes them run hotter than the air/oil cooling design is able to deal with. After all, heat is a necessary ingredient for making power. Backing off on the timing seems to be helping some.

 

Attached pic is of my exhaust ports, ceramic coated by AMS.

 

Even getting stopped at a long red light in Texas during the summer is bad enough - Wards Fans working for me.

 

Ain't that the truth. Thanks Pilot. I'll check 'em out.

 

I am having the same problem on 2012 ultra. Have put in cams, thunder max tuner, dual exhaust, and jagg fan assisted cooler. Just got bike from bike week were my oil temp went to 300. Was looking at love jugs or wards fans, but don`t know if they will help. Hate to spend the money if not. Riding to key west in July so hope to have this problem solved by then. If you figure what is best let me know as I am open for suggestions.

 

Fans will definitely help. Several videos on YouTube showing a laser thermometer gun pointed at the heads reading a ~100 degree drop in head temp once fans were turned on for five minutes. Jim's has a new fan out that looks pretty cool and includes a horn. Pricey though.

FWIW - my "problem" has abated since I turned back the timing advance slope a notch. Did not loose power, so I just had it advanced too much. May still need the fans as the temps rise into the 90's soon here in south Texas.