Poor man and his S&S crank
#21
Very nice Matt I'll be following along! Man that s&s assembly is a nice unit huh?! Until now I was under the impression that all the s&s flywheels required a Timken. I just went in their site and saw the 4-3/8" assembly is available with a race to use the roller style bearings. Just out of pure curiosity what's the reason to stick with the lefty bearing instead of going Timken? Are you planning on splitting the cases and doing all the work yourself?
I like what your doing here, get the bottom end built and solid and you can upgrade everything up top like heads, even bigger jugs and make as much power as you want later and not have to worry about the crank ever again. Keep the pics coming I've been waiting for a winter build!
I like what your doing here, get the bottom end built and solid and you can upgrade everything up top like heads, even bigger jugs and make as much power as you want later and not have to worry about the crank ever again. Keep the pics coming I've been waiting for a winter build!
#23
1/4" philips bit duct taped to a 1/4" wrench. The 'bit' end of the bit that normally fits into your 1/4" Hex tool just so happens to be the same size allen required for the throttle body bolts. I put the big socket and and extension on the end of the wrench to crack the bolt free. That was on the cam side, the front bolt. The other 3 weren't nearly as so bad. I ordered some 12 pt intake bolts from diamond engineering to replace the allen head bolts. We'll see how they do.
Was supposed to split the cases this afternoon but plans changed. Maybe tonight or tomorrow.
#25
Once you go Timken you kind of have to commit to letting someone else work on your bottom end going forward unless you go buy or make some more specialty tools. Then there's the who do you send it to that actually line bores the cases, which I think only Tman and DarkHorse do. Didn't want to mess with it or pay to have it done.
Darkhorse never line bored my case and I had the Timken installed by an Indy - is this bad or unusual? Think I saw some Thread about this at HTT but can't remember what was said...
#26
Put a lefty on both sides of the crank and be done with it. Yes Timkens are a great upgrade but I have put together some hot motors with dual leftys and they are doing fine. You should however address the heads even if your budget is limited, as that is where the real power is made. Big Boyz heads does s nice job on them when $$ is a concern. If you do ship your heads follow this trick:
Use an old HD composite head gasket. Place one between both heads and using some allthread, nuts and washers bolt both heads together as a set using the head gasket as a cushion between both mating surfaces. That way the heads don't clank around in the box eating each other up. Bubble wrap the single "heads" and they ship great that way.
The case sealant you got works perfectly. Georges Garage makes the tools to press in-out the lefty bearings perfectly. Lightly heat the cases with a heat gun and chill the bearings in the fridge. They will lock in like nobody's business when normalized.
Looks like a smart build you got. I would have gone TW777 (what a great cam!!) but the Andrews are nice.
Use an old HD composite head gasket. Place one between both heads and using some allthread, nuts and washers bolt both heads together as a set using the head gasket as a cushion between both mating surfaces. That way the heads don't clank around in the box eating each other up. Bubble wrap the single "heads" and they ship great that way.
The case sealant you got works perfectly. Georges Garage makes the tools to press in-out the lefty bearings perfectly. Lightly heat the cases with a heat gun and chill the bearings in the fridge. They will lock in like nobody's business when normalized.
Looks like a smart build you got. I would have gone TW777 (what a great cam!!) but the Andrews are nice.
#27
Stator and case bolts removed:
Case out of engine stand and supported on 4x4's
This part made me nervous. Not knowing how much is required to split the cases I didn't want to break anything. After discussing it with some guys on HTT I decided to keep trying with my break pad spreader and some heat applied to the sealant. I cranked the brake pad spreader down pretty tight by hand in between the motor mount mounting flanges, used the heat gun on high along the adjacent areas, and worked the spreader a little until the cases finally split.
The cam side half just slides off once the cases are split. Stopping here for now.
Case out of engine stand and supported on 4x4's
This part made me nervous. Not knowing how much is required to split the cases I didn't want to break anything. After discussing it with some guys on HTT I decided to keep trying with my break pad spreader and some heat applied to the sealant. I cranked the brake pad spreader down pretty tight by hand in between the motor mount mounting flanges, used the heat gun on high along the adjacent areas, and worked the spreader a little until the cases finally split.
The cam side half just slides off once the cases are split. Stopping here for now.
#28
Pretty sure Darkhorse will check case alignment if you send them both case halves. I don't even think they'll do a Timken unless you send them both halves. It's not unusual, plenty of shops install Timkens using the JIMS or SE inserts just think I've read the really proper way to do it is to supply the cases and flywheel to a shop that line bores since ~2006 (don't quote me) the factory stopped matching aligned case halves when building their engines. This is all off the top of my head so I could be wrong.
#29
Nice work Matt! I am starting to look at my Parts Manual and Service Manual to follow along.
That silver part on the bottom of your case, cam side - is that a part that goes with the stand you bought?
Are you going to weigh the stock flywheel and S&S one? Kinda curious if there is much of a difference.
That silver part on the bottom of your case, cam side - is that a part that goes with the stand you bought?
Are you going to weigh the stock flywheel and S&S one? Kinda curious if there is much of a difference.
#30
Nice work Matt! I am starting to look at my Parts Manual and Service Manual to follow along.
That silver part on the bottom of your case, cam side - is that a part that goes with the stand you bought?
Are you going to weigh the stock flywheel and S&S one? Kinda curious if there is much of a difference.
That silver part on the bottom of your case, cam side - is that a part that goes with the stand you bought?
Are you going to weigh the stock flywheel and S&S one? Kinda curious if there is much of a difference.