Andrews 57H cams in a 2016 stage 1 Ultra Limited?
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As I understand it, a cam with characteristics like those of the 255 would better enhance the heavier bikes carrying heavier loads.
#22
I have seen Tatto's sheets; he has put many 110/117 kits on the street and is a fan. I can't really compare since I only found two that were near identical but one ran stock heads at 10.3 static and the other ran SE CNC heads at 10.5 and both had different exhausts. The motor at 10.5 did have higher numbers 107/125 vis 105/120 for the motor at 10.3. However, the higher numbers from the motor at 10.5 could be attributed to the CNC heads with larger valves. So, I still can't say that the higher compression adds anything to the build. I will say that Tatoo has put out several 110 bolt on kits with the 57 cams at 200-205 CCP that make serious power and were I to go that route, I would probably follow his example; can't argue with success.........
#24
10.3 is perfect for the 57's. I ran this cam at 10.1 and a friend ran it at 10.3, the 10.3 was perfect and mine was a bit soft down low, a good 2-n-1 will help the bottom end but the comp. will bring the cam to life.
#25
With all due respect to everyone's comments, but has anyone try contacting Andrews as they may know a "little more" on what cam suites your specific scoot & riding habits?
I'm just saying....
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I'm just saying....
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#26
Any manufacturer, including Andrews, is always going to err to the conservative side, particularly when it comes to something like cam choice which dictates CCP and makes a huge difference in performance and tenability. This has been proven many times over the years and is why so many that run Andrews cams run them at the upper limit of the recommended compression or higher.
#27
Any manufacturer, including Andrews, is always going to err to the conservative side, particularly when it comes to something like cam choice which dictates CCP and makes a huge difference in performance and tenability. This has been proven many times over the years and is why so many that run Andrews cams run them at the upper limit of the recommended compression or higher.
I believe we are splitting hairs here, only the extremist may be interested in fractional TQ/HP gains, but not your average stage 1-65%er's....like myself is concerned IMHO.
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#28
Buuuuut according to Andrews the 57H is a direct replacement that is designed in 2012 for the 103 & 110 that has lower compression comparing to Rushmore modes that has compression bumped up slightly.... Indicating the 57H works well with stock compression 2012 and slightly better on Rushmore model's.
I believe we are splitting hairs here, only the extremist may be interested in fractional TQ/HP gains, but not your average stage 1-65%er's....like myself is concerned IMHO.
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I believe we are splitting hairs here, only the extremist may be interested in fractional TQ/HP gains, but not your average stage 1-65%er's....like myself is concerned IMHO.
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#30
hey travis
looking at some pistons the other day, 85 cc head chamber .040 head gasket
-1.5 piston dome volume Andrews 57 I get 199cpp 10:25 static, on your 107 but who knows what magic stuff is in there at 125 square its a beast. I mailed scott cpl days ago to get a good idea on prices on some parts hope to tear in to motor in april your 57 sure don't look like a dog cam. its all in the combination of parts and numbers wrong parts equals wrong numbers= poor results find a good builder for advise too many arm chair coaches some times
I could be way off also who knows , a good set of head worked on by a pro builder with the right combo of parts is the way to go.
saw some utube vids cpl years ago 103 with 57 cam had se heads which aren't really worked up as good as a pro builder reworked head and it got 115 tq and 110 hp
-1.5 piston dome volume Andrews 57 I get 199cpp 10:25 static, on your 107 but who knows what magic stuff is in there at 125 square its a beast. I mailed scott cpl days ago to get a good idea on prices on some parts hope to tear in to motor in april your 57 sure don't look like a dog cam. its all in the combination of parts and numbers wrong parts equals wrong numbers= poor results find a good builder for advise too many arm chair coaches some times
I could be way off also who knows , a good set of head worked on by a pro builder with the right combo of parts is the way to go.
saw some utube vids cpl years ago 103 with 57 cam had se heads which aren't really worked up as good as a pro builder reworked head and it got 115 tq and 110 hp