New Street Glide
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New Street Glide
Looking at the new Street Glide with the new 114 cubic inch motor. Does anyone know how many horsepower it is?
My old (2007) Road Glide with the 96 CID runs 76 horsepower. I don't understand why Harley posts torque but not BHP...
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My old (2007) Road Glide with the 96 CID runs 76 horsepower. I don't understand why Harley posts torque but not BHP...
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#2
Round numbers, a GSXR 750 makes something like 2x the peak HP with less than half the displacement.
Of course, it's a totally different "kind" of HP, and (to my taste, anyway) largely irrelevant to street use, but for pure dick wagging purposes, you can't beat a big number.
So HD keeps their small number in their pants.
#3
The obvious answer is that the hp number is not impressive for very heavy bikes.
The second reason is that HD makes a huge amount of $$ selling aftermarket upgrades that are added to the already hefty price at the time of build or sale. The sales people are skillful in convincing a buyer 1. that the bike they are buying is the best bike on the planet, and then immediately they are able to 2. convince the buyer that buy spending an additional ton of money, it will really "wake up" the bike.
HPower numbers are usually represented by a specific number that indicates the highest hp over the entire rpm range. If you look at that hp number and then look at the rpm number you see that the amount of time you spend at that peak rpm number is less than 1% of your riding time.
Torque numbers for the HD's are not as embarrassing, and are more inline with competing cruiser style bikes, so those numbers may help sales.
A Triumph Street Triple is a 675cc bike that develops 106 hp, your bike has 900cc's more at 76hp. If you want HP, simply look elsewhere, it does not live in the house of Harley.
The second reason is that HD makes a huge amount of $$ selling aftermarket upgrades that are added to the already hefty price at the time of build or sale. The sales people are skillful in convincing a buyer 1. that the bike they are buying is the best bike on the planet, and then immediately they are able to 2. convince the buyer that buy spending an additional ton of money, it will really "wake up" the bike.
HPower numbers are usually represented by a specific number that indicates the highest hp over the entire rpm range. If you look at that hp number and then look at the rpm number you see that the amount of time you spend at that peak rpm number is less than 1% of your riding time.
Torque numbers for the HD's are not as embarrassing, and are more inline with competing cruiser style bikes, so those numbers may help sales.
A Triumph Street Triple is a 675cc bike that develops 106 hp, your bike has 900cc's more at 76hp. If you want HP, simply look elsewhere, it does not live in the house of Harley.
Last edited by LoneWoolf; 09-02-2016 at 12:58 PM.
#4
Because they would be embarrassed at the comparison with every other manufacturer.
Round numbers, a GSXR 750 makes something like 2x the peak HP with less than half the displacement.
Of course, it's a totally different "kind" of HP, and (to my taste, anyway) largely irrelevant to street use, but for pure dick wagging purposes, you can't beat a big number.
So HD keeps their small number in their pants.
Round numbers, a GSXR 750 makes something like 2x the peak HP with less than half the displacement.
Of course, it's a totally different "kind" of HP, and (to my taste, anyway) largely irrelevant to street use, but for pure dick wagging purposes, you can't beat a big number.
So HD keeps their small number in their pants.
I don't even understand why you brought that up.
A GSXR 750 is an inline 4 engine that makes 50-55 ft lbs of torque.
#5
124 hp X 3250 RPM = 403000
403000 / 5252 = 76.7 Horsepower (Probably not peak)
But in a thousand pound bike I'll take 124 ft lbs and 78 HP @ 3200 RPM over 124 HP and 78 ft lbs @ 10000 RPM.
#6
I've put a **** ton of street miles on crotch rockets over the past 20 years and never once have I rolled on the throttle and thought "Damn I wish this pulled like a harley". But countless times when dropping three gears at 60mph to try and pass a car in front of me I've thought to myself "Damn I wish this pulled like my 1000 did".
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The 107 only puts out 80hp/95tq. That's not raped ape territory IMO. More like a strong running 80in Evo.....
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People have become fixated on data over the last 30+years. "What are the numbers?" "I will not be happy unless my numbers are superior to the competition" Bottom line is that while the numbers have increased substantially over the years, the satisfaction and pleasure from just riding a 2 wheel motorcycle in the wind has not.
If you don't enjoy riding any motorcycle with 45hp or better, the problem is in your head, and what you fail to get out of riding has nothing to do with hp numbers.
If you don't enjoy riding any motorcycle with 45hp or better, the problem is in your head, and what you fail to get out of riding has nothing to do with hp numbers.