FP3 with CAMS????
#1
FP3 with CAMS????
I am not sure if this should have been posted in Tuner or CAMS section. I have the same question in softail section. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Ok, I warned you guys that I was going to have lots of questions during my project Breakout. I'm getting ready to start, the parts are coming in and I believe the disassembly will start this weekend. I will be replacing many of the chrome covers with black (including upper/lower rocker boxes, cam cover etc.). I have decided that since I am changing the rocker box covers I will go ahead and change the push rod covers and the tappet covers. Now this leads me to my question. My original plan for this project was to make mostly cosmetic changes to the bike (with exception to exhaust, air filter and tuner). Now I am wondering if I should change the cams since I will already have the rocker box covers, push rods and cam cover out of the way. I have done some research and I believe the SE 204 cam is the best for me and my riding style. I have seen that many on here are big fans of other after market cams but I intend to use the stock push rods so it is important that I use a cam with a base circle the same as the stock cam. I have reviewed my service manual and watched many of the cam replacement youtube videos and I am nervous but feel this is not beyond my capabilities. I will be using the FP3 (already purchased) for the tune. Now to the questions:
Does the FP3 have a can tune for cams?
If not, how would I get it close enough to run "auto tune", and will "auto tune" adjust for the cam?
Keeping in mind that I am not dissatisfied with the performance of my bike now, will the SE 204 give a performance gain that will make it worth my time to put it in?
This would be my first cam replacement, what kind of roadblocks can I expect during this task?
The bike only has 200 miles on it, do I need to change the cam bearings or will they be ok (this may be a deal breaker for me since I do not have the proper tools to change the bearings)?
Thank you in advance for any help with this.
Gary
Ok, I warned you guys that I was going to have lots of questions during my project Breakout. I'm getting ready to start, the parts are coming in and I believe the disassembly will start this weekend. I will be replacing many of the chrome covers with black (including upper/lower rocker boxes, cam cover etc.). I have decided that since I am changing the rocker box covers I will go ahead and change the push rod covers and the tappet covers. Now this leads me to my question. My original plan for this project was to make mostly cosmetic changes to the bike (with exception to exhaust, air filter and tuner). Now I am wondering if I should change the cams since I will already have the rocker box covers, push rods and cam cover out of the way. I have done some research and I believe the SE 204 cam is the best for me and my riding style. I have seen that many on here are big fans of other after market cams but I intend to use the stock push rods so it is important that I use a cam with a base circle the same as the stock cam. I have reviewed my service manual and watched many of the cam replacement youtube videos and I am nervous but feel this is not beyond my capabilities. I will be using the FP3 (already purchased) for the tune. Now to the questions:
Does the FP3 have a can tune for cams?
If not, how would I get it close enough to run "auto tune", and will "auto tune" adjust for the cam?
Keeping in mind that I am not dissatisfied with the performance of my bike now, will the SE 204 give a performance gain that will make it worth my time to put it in?
This would be my first cam replacement, what kind of roadblocks can I expect during this task?
The bike only has 200 miles on it, do I need to change the cam bearings or will they be ok (this may be a deal breaker for me since I do not have the proper tools to change the bearings)?
Thank you in advance for any help with this.
Gary
#2
I am not sure if this should have been posted in Tuner or CAMS section. I have the same question in softail section. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Ok, I warned you guys that I was going to have lots of questions during my project Breakout. I'm getting ready to start, the parts are coming in and I believe the disassembly will start this weekend. I will be replacing many of the chrome covers with black (including upper/lower rocker boxes, cam cover etc.). I have decided that since I am changing the rocker box covers I will go ahead and change the push rod covers and the tappet covers. Now this leads me to my question. My original plan for this project was to make mostly cosmetic changes to the bike (with exception to exhaust, air filter and tuner). Now I am wondering if I should change the cams since I will already have the rocker box covers, push rods and cam cover out of the way. I have done some research and I believe the SE 204 cam is the best for me and my riding style. I have seen that many on here are big fans of other after market cams but I intend to use the stock push rods so it is important that I use a cam with a base circle the same as the stock cam. I have reviewed my service manual and watched many of the cam replacement youtube videos and I am nervous but feel this is not beyond my capabilities. I will be using the FP3 (already purchased) for the tune. Now to the questions:
Does the FP3 have a can tune for cams?
If not, how would I get it close enough to run "auto tune", and will "auto tune" adjust for the cam?
Keeping in mind that I am not dissatisfied with the performance of my bike now, will the SE 204 give a performance gain that will make it worth my time to put it in?
This would be my first cam replacement, what kind of roadblocks can I expect during this task?
The bike only has 200 miles on it, do I need to change the cam bearings or will they be ok (this may be a deal breaker for me since I do not have the proper tools to change the bearings)?
Thank you in advance for any help with this.
Gary
Ok, I warned you guys that I was going to have lots of questions during my project Breakout. I'm getting ready to start, the parts are coming in and I believe the disassembly will start this weekend. I will be replacing many of the chrome covers with black (including upper/lower rocker boxes, cam cover etc.). I have decided that since I am changing the rocker box covers I will go ahead and change the push rod covers and the tappet covers. Now this leads me to my question. My original plan for this project was to make mostly cosmetic changes to the bike (with exception to exhaust, air filter and tuner). Now I am wondering if I should change the cams since I will already have the rocker box covers, push rods and cam cover out of the way. I have done some research and I believe the SE 204 cam is the best for me and my riding style. I have seen that many on here are big fans of other after market cams but I intend to use the stock push rods so it is important that I use a cam with a base circle the same as the stock cam. I have reviewed my service manual and watched many of the cam replacement youtube videos and I am nervous but feel this is not beyond my capabilities. I will be using the FP3 (already purchased) for the tune. Now to the questions:
Does the FP3 have a can tune for cams?
If not, how would I get it close enough to run "auto tune", and will "auto tune" adjust for the cam?
Keeping in mind that I am not dissatisfied with the performance of my bike now, will the SE 204 give a performance gain that will make it worth my time to put it in?
This would be my first cam replacement, what kind of roadblocks can I expect during this task?
The bike only has 200 miles on it, do I need to change the cam bearings or will they be ok (this may be a deal breaker for me since I do not have the proper tools to change the bearings)?
Thank you in advance for any help with this.
Gary
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fastjohnny (08-12-2017)
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Looks likes they beat me to the punch. I will say that I have done this (Andrews 57h cams) and was able to take the bike out for 40+ miles yesterday. The new map supplied by V&H is actually running better than my previous stock map with stock cams.
Since you mention that this will be your first cam change, here is a link to my own "experience", I do have a list of tools, parts, etc. needed. It was not hard at all and while you should definitely buy new bearings for $14, I can tell you that I sold my bearing tool within 15 minutes of posting it so consider the purchase of the tool more like a rental fee
The S&S video is excellent and I had it running throughout most of the change with the exception of using the Heartland tool instructions for the bearings. Also when it came to the pushrod adjustment I did not use the video to find the base circle, instead I used HD Pilot's suggestion located on page 5. Once I did that it took me 10 minutes to get everything adjusted. You can also ditch the last couple of pages regarding my map and the tune I had, I had given V&H the wrong info, once that was changed bike ran perfectly.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...am-change.html
Since you mention that this will be your first cam change, here is a link to my own "experience", I do have a list of tools, parts, etc. needed. It was not hard at all and while you should definitely buy new bearings for $14, I can tell you that I sold my bearing tool within 15 minutes of posting it so consider the purchase of the tool more like a rental fee
The S&S video is excellent and I had it running throughout most of the change with the exception of using the Heartland tool instructions for the bearings. Also when it came to the pushrod adjustment I did not use the video to find the base circle, instead I used HD Pilot's suggestion located on page 5. Once I did that it took me 10 minutes to get everything adjusted. You can also ditch the last couple of pages regarding my map and the tune I had, I had given V&H the wrong info, once that was changed bike ran perfectly.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/dyna-...am-change.html
Last edited by robbyville; 01-22-2015 at 11:44 AM.
#5
Thanks Robby, all of this information will be a huge help. Just ordered the cams, bearings, gaskets, tools. Should be here next week. Until then I'll continue watching videos, reading posts and reading my service manual to get myself up to speed so I will be mentally prepared for the install. I'll be sure to post pics once I have the project done.
Ride Safe
Gary
Ride Safe
Gary
#6
Thanks Robby, all of this information will be a huge help. Just ordered the cams, bearings, gaskets, tools. Should be here next week. Until then I'll continue watching videos, reading posts and reading my service manual to get myself up to speed so I will be mentally prepared for the install. I'll be sure to post pics once I have the project done.
Ride Safe
Gary
Ride Safe
Gary
#7
Update
FP3 is working perfectly. It was a effortless install. The folks at V&H were great to work with. Downloaded the map and then uploaded it to V&H with the info on the cams. They made the adjustments and sent it back to me. Flashed the ECM with the new map and just like that it's done. Took the bike for a ride and it is running perfect. i doubt I'll run an auto tune at this point because it's running so well. Great product, great service.
FP3 is working perfectly. It was a effortless install. The folks at V&H were great to work with. Downloaded the map and then uploaded it to V&H with the info on the cams. They made the adjustments and sent it back to me. Flashed the ECM with the new map and just like that it's done. Took the bike for a ride and it is running perfect. i doubt I'll run an auto tune at this point because it's running so well. Great product, great service.
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FP3 is working perfectly. It was a effortless install. The folks at V&H were great to work with. Downloaded the map and then uploaded it to V&H with the info on the cams. They made the adjustments and sent it back to me. Flashed the ECM with the new map and just like that it's done. Took the bike for a ride and it is running perfect. i doubt I'll run an auto tune at this point because it's running so well. Great product, great service.
FP3 is working perfectly. It was a effortless install. The folks at V&H were great to work with. Downloaded the map and then uploaded it to V&H with the info on the cams. They made the adjustments and sent it back to me. Flashed the ECM with the new map and just like that it's done. Took the bike for a ride and it is running perfect. i doubt I'll run an auto tune at this point because it's running so well. Great product, great service.
#10
@Harleyvetteguy- The FP3 can accommodate for the aftermarket camshafts. Once you have decided what camshaft you like you can then upload the map for the exhaust setup you have currently and we can make the changes for you. Once the changes for the cam have been made, you can the run the AutoTune for 3 sessions (30-45 minutes each depending on riding style). Hit Apply after sessions 1 & 2 and then after the third session, hit finish and "flash" the bike. If you have any issues please give us a call or send us an email through the app.
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