Check Engine lamp persists - Code P0113, Delphi EFI system...
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So I swapped out the TPS and did a tug test on IAT sensor wires as recommended = tight and firm.
Power to IAT sensor = 5.05 VDC - initially it was 5.75 before swapping out the System Relay. I'm wondering where the battery voltage to ECM is regulated exactly? Would it be prudent to swap out the battery maybe?
Power to IAT sensor = 5.05 VDC - initially it was 5.75 before swapping out the System Relay. I'm wondering where the battery voltage to ECM is regulated exactly? Would it be prudent to swap out the battery maybe?
#12
Wow, a brand new edition runs over $90.00 - I might consider it though :-)
I'm inclined to think that the error code is erroneous only cause the ET, TP, MAP and IAT sensors share the same 5V ground.
I've checked continuity on wires running between ECM and IAT sensor and have no faults. I think my next step is to swap out the TPS and Engine Temp sensor.
I don't believe that the harness could be the issue considering this bike has only 15,000 Miles on it.
I'm inclined to think that the error code is erroneous only cause the ET, TP, MAP and IAT sensors share the same 5V ground.
I've checked continuity on wires running between ECM and IAT sensor and have no faults. I think my next step is to swap out the TPS and Engine Temp sensor.
I don't believe that the harness could be the issue considering this bike has only 15,000 Miles on it.
Did you open the links? Boardtracker sells the manual for $48 plus shipping and the used one on eBay was $30.
edit :
I deleted the pages from the 2008 manual as they were different systems.
Last edited by Vernal; 07-18-2016 at 10:27 AM.
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Guess it's been said. But unplug the plug on the IAT and the ECM. Make sure with a good volt/ohm meter that there is less resistance the 1 ohm for pin 1 to 7 Lt GN/7 wire and pin 2 to 26 BK/W wire. Look closely at both female and male pins and both connections are ECM and the new IAT. I am with you. It's a connection. And it might take 6 hands to pick it up. 4 for holding meter probes on wire and two to wiggle wire if that truly is the problem.
Last edited by Jackie Paper; 07-18-2016 at 09:12 AM.
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johnnythrottle (07-18-2016)
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I live here in Canada and of course our dollar is on the low side as of late and probably staying that way for a while. A used manual might suffice if I can find one locally.
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johnnythrottle (07-19-2016)
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The ECM gets battery power that is unregulated...If you saw 5.75 volts at the sensor wire, and suspect it's the system relay, it is more then likely ECU ground is flakey...Check the black wire in the sub harness and follow it through the 12 pin connector all the way to a round lug that fastens to the frame in the main harness...If you have a wiring diagram you see it...Pin 12 appears to be the ground for the ECM
I see that Pin 28 and 10 from the ECM are grounded to Stud 2 which I have located and inspected - Grnd pin 12 ties in with ECM at pin 10 too and the instrument cluster, VS Sensor and Fuel Gauge which are all 5V I assume - I'll take another look here in the near future to see what voltage is being sent through that stud from ECM but I'm sure it's normal. I though initially that IAT sensor might be throwing an error due to too much voltage.
I have noticed just lately that although the CEL is still on constantly, it seems to pulse once every several seconds even when just the ignition is on and the motor is not running :-/ like it's cycling through something.
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I'll post a couple of the schematics, if they are the same as the 2005 then I think there is some confusion as to which pins are the actual grounds. 10 & 28 are the power grounds that go to the Left Hand Stud. Pin 12 is the CKP ground. To check the IAT resistance disconnect the ECM at connector 78 and ohm wires 7 and 26 resistance should be between 2K and 5K ohms. Connect the ECM and disconnect the IAT and turn Ign. on, you should read 5v at IAT connector 89B. Disconnect both ends and check the connectors to make sure all the pins and sockets look even, that none are recessed so they may not be making good contact. Ohm the wires while wiggling like Ripsaw said, this may take more than one person. Check continuity to ground to make sure you don't have a rubbed spot somewhere. I don't see how the system relay could be playing a role in P0113. If your not getting DTC's for ET, MAP or TPS then I think your ground is good.
Follow the trouble shooting guide I posted earlier
Follow the trouble shooting guide I posted earlier
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I'll post a couple of the schematics, if they are the same as the 2005 then I think there is some confusion as to which pins are the actual grounds. 10 & 28 are the power grounds that go to the Left Hand Stud. Pin 12 is the CKP ground. To check the IAT resistance disconnect the ECM at connector 78 and ohm wires 7 and 26 resistance should be between 2K and 5K ohms. Connect the ECM and disconnect the IAT and turn Ign. on, you should read 5v at IAT connector 89B. Disconnect both ends and check the connectors to make sure all the pins and sockets look even, that none are recessed so they may not be making good contact. Ohm the wires while wiggling like Ripsaw said, this may take more than one person. Check continuity to ground to make sure you don't have a rubbed spot somewhere. I don't see how the system relay could be playing a role in P0113. If your not getting DTC's for ET, MAP or TPS then I think your ground is good.
Follow the trouble shooting guide I posted earlier
Snipped picks.
Follow the trouble shooting guide I posted earlier
Snipped picks.
BTW, The main harness picture you are showing is for an FLHT/FLTR bike.. I think this is an FLHR type bike.
Last edited by Max Headflow; 07-19-2016 at 12:24 AM. Reason: Add
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My mistake, I was looking at the ECM connector 78 and pin 12 is CKP you are referencing connector 8 and 12 is the right hand ground. Looking at his picture you're right it most likely is a Road King.
The reason I said I thought the ground was good the ET Has DTC P0118 which looks to be nearly identical to P0113 .
I'll post the correct schematics and re-post the trouble shooting guide.
The reason I said I thought the ground was good the ET Has DTC P0118 which looks to be nearly identical to P0113 .
I'll post the correct schematics and re-post the trouble shooting guide.