Occasional misfire at cruise
#21
The problem disappeared again for six weeks and returned with a vengeance. It worsened in the past two weeks, so bad that it started to affect idle. I was fairly certain it was a leak inside the tank causing reduced fuel pressure and that indeed was the problem. However, it was not the component I suspected, which I thought for sure would be the high-pressure corrugated plastic hose downstream of the fuel pump, which has been a problem for others. It in fact was a poor seal on the fuel-pressure regulator, and it was leaking from that point. I replaced most everything in the tank except the fuel pump, so now I hope I'll be trouble-free for a while, as related to this area anyway.
#22
Update
As an update, the repairs inside the tank didn't fix the problem, although there was indeed a leak at the regulator that needed attention. In the two weeks since that effort the problem had become steadily worse, and I was seeing weird TP values displayed on my PV gauge--e.g. 3-10% at idle and sometimes +10 what it should read elsewhere. It would intermittently buck, spit, and idle poorly--and I've had it parked in the garage for the last few days.
Today I installed a new TPS and for the first time in recent memory it ran flawlessly in three runs. No idle weirdness and no misfiring or popping, a real departure from the recent norm. Because of the strange TP values I was seeing I was certain, or at least as much as I could be under the circumstances, that the TPS was bad. Let's hope it stays this way, but I'm cautiously encouraged.
Today I installed a new TPS and for the first time in recent memory it ran flawlessly in three runs. No idle weirdness and no misfiring or popping, a real departure from the recent norm. Because of the strange TP values I was seeing I was certain, or at least as much as I could be under the circumstances, that the TPS was bad. Let's hope it stays this way, but I'm cautiously encouraged.
#23
Could be the Fuel Pressure Regulator (FPR) ($29)
The FPR is a mechanical device located in the tank...when the fuel pressure starts to go too high...the FPR opens and re-routes fuel back into the tank...no codes...no warning...mine was sticking open occasionally...slow to close. The low fuel pressure could cause a misfire. You stated you fixed a leak by the FPR...did you replace the FPR?
Funny thing...this is a STOCK item at the dealerships...does this mean the FPR failure is common?
The FPR is a mechanical device located in the tank...when the fuel pressure starts to go too high...the FPR opens and re-routes fuel back into the tank...no codes...no warning...mine was sticking open occasionally...slow to close. The low fuel pressure could cause a misfire. You stated you fixed a leak by the FPR...did you replace the FPR?
Funny thing...this is a STOCK item at the dealerships...does this mean the FPR failure is common?
#24
Could be the Fuel Pressure Regulator (FPR) ($29)
The FPR is a mechanical device located in the tank...when the fuel pressure starts to go too high...the FPR opens and re-routes fuel back into the tank...no codes...no warning...mine was sticking open occasionally...slow to close. The low fuel pressure could cause a misfire. You stated you fixed a leak by the FPR...did you replace the FPR?
Funny thing...this is a STOCK item at the dealerships...does this mean the FPR failure is common?
The FPR is a mechanical device located in the tank...when the fuel pressure starts to go too high...the FPR opens and re-routes fuel back into the tank...no codes...no warning...mine was sticking open occasionally...slow to close. The low fuel pressure could cause a misfire. You stated you fixed a leak by the FPR...did you replace the FPR?
Funny thing...this is a STOCK item at the dealerships...does this mean the FPR failure is common?
I rode it again yesterday and noticed something else. Over the past year or more my TP value has been higher than expected, and I attributed it to the 255-cam upgrade two years ago. At highway speeds it would run around 10% @ 50-60mph in 5th or 6th gears when stock, but later after the cam upgrade I noticed it was higher, usually around 15% under the same conditions. Now it's back down to where it was originally, suggesting the TPS has been bad for a long time, and only recently started showing any overt misbehavior. In the latter stages, only last week, it was so bad I decided to park the bike, and TP values were very abnormal, often 10% at idle.
Last edited by iclick; 06-19-2011 at 11:52 AM.
#27
It did throw a TPS code repeatedly the last few weeks. It was P0122 (TPS open/low EFI), which I think meant that it was creating an open-circuit intermittently, and the ECM wasn't reacting well to it.
#28
#29
Misfire
I have an 09 electra and I get a mis fire through the cruising range. 2750 to 3500 rpms it happens as if you were throwing a light switch on. Never thought about the Fuel Pressure Regulator or changing plug wires. The HD shop has had the bike for 4 weeks now and they can't figure it out.
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