2011 Street Glide 103

Thought I'd share a recent problem and solution...

Bike began having a problem with idle dropping down to 700-800 rpm and stumbling when hot. Eventually over several weeks problems progressed to not wanting to idle at all and check engine light would come on.... Code was usually p0505 and once showed po113.

I finally figured out that wiggling the wiring harness to the TMAP sensor would kill the engine.
The wire from the frame mounted plastic loom to the sensor was too tight!
No slack at all resulted in a 90 degree turn into the connector. This broke one wire inside the insulation.

I decided to avoid messing with terminating the BOSCH connector. I purchased one with pigtails already installed as that also resolved the issue of not enough slack!

(I purchased CONN-85722 from Ballenger Motorsports. It doesnt seem quite as heavy duty as the original, but a serviceable replacement. http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/pro...oducts_id/1626 )

Hope this helps someone out!
Allen

 

Thanks for the post Allen, and good to hear you found the solution!
Being an electronics person myself, I really dislike when I see people do the same type of things with all sorts of electronic cords and then wonder why they'll have problems or shorts not too long down the road.
Cords don't like being bent hard and need slack!

 

I'm having the same issue, started out as sputtering while riding, and progressed to having a hard time just idling at startup and CE light coming on... wiggling the wires in there had the opposite effect for me: it idled regularly for a second or two, like if the connection was temporarily made, then goes back to very rough/low idle. Did you need to remove the gas tank to replace the harness? I was thinking of changing both the harness and the sensor... but after reading this and other posts, I think I will try replacing the harness only first and see if that works.

 

So this harness comes with the pigtail wires already attached? I replaced my sensor and when I jiggled the harness, the bike freaked out, sputtered and shut off... so it looks like the same issue you had. Do you know if HD also carries this part?

Thanks!

 

my bike died on the dyno with a MAP sensor code...guess I will be looking at this..

thanks, great post!

 

Just a follow up... I replaced the harness to the map sensor, and left a little more slack on the wires than HD did so that they won't bend as sharply at the connector and a little above that. That resolved the issue for me. Bike is smooth again.

 

It seems this could be the same issue here. I am less than mechanically inclined. My bike runs fine at high end but going through traffic in town or construction between 25 and 45 mph and and rpm running close or right at 2k it starts to choke out, high mph and rpm it is fine. 2002 Ultra Classic fuel injection.
I tried Seafoam but no change. I bought the bike as is and used. It is getting close to 30k but didn't want to do the $500 tune up just yet. I can also make the bike "cough or choke out" by rolling the throttle small quick turns in idle. It like coughs a puff of air, causing the engine to cut out for a split second. I know I will have to take it in but was hoping to at least get a clue what it could be and/or what it may cost. Several suggestions were like tip sensor, circuit breaker- whatever that is, ignition module at the end of the crank? Or maybe a bad fuel pump relay, if the bike is injected? Mapping? The bike did run fine for a bit but then started this issue.
The bike starts up fine, idles fine, does not have stock pipes and has a heavy duty clutch. Sorry for getting winded, no pun intended

 

Randy, i would get on Dynojet's site, find a dyno tuner near you, and ask them to to test it on the dyno, that way they can see what is happening.

i dont think a dealer can fix this by looking it sitting still

 

You can check to see what trouble codes it is returning with the steps below; this was how I found it was related to the map sensor - mine was returning map sensor codes. Also... while you're bike is running, wiggle the map sensor wires with a pencil or something and see if that changes how the engine runs. Could also be your map sensor is gunked up... mine was pretty bad, I was able to clean it up a bit with some MAF sensor cleaner, but I ended up replacing the sensor anyway, as I wasn't able to get it all the way clean, but I will spray that now as part of my regular maintenance... on my bike, I remove the air cleaner, open the butterfly and spray the sensor.

Otherwise, yea, have it checked out... that was going to be my next step if the harness didn't work.
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The following procedure will instruct in retrieving*and clearing*ECM Diagnostic*Trouble Codes*and*TSM/TSSM*codes thru the Harley guage cluster as well as a list of codes.*

1- Turn*Ignition switch*to OFF & Run/Stop switch is to Run.*

2- Push*odometer reset*button in & hold.*

3- Turn*ignition switch*to Ignition and release the odometer reset button. Background lighting sould illuminate, sppedometer needle should sweep its full range and indicator lamps (battery, security, low fuel, check engine and cruise) should illuminate. The word “diag” should then appear.*

4 - Push the*odometer reset*button once and you will see*the selection menu "PSSPt" with the first P flashing.*

5 - Each letter represents an area of the diagnostics module. The module that is flashing is the one you are going to check. To move from one letter (module) to the next, you push the*odometer reset*button one time. (from P to S to SP to t and back to P, etc.)*
P = ECM/ICM*(Electronic Control Module)*[EFI] /*Ignition Control Module*[Carbureted])*
S = TSM/TSSM (Turn Signal/ Security Module)*
SP =*speedometer*
T = tachometer*

6 - To get the DTC within an area of diagnostics, push and hold the*odometer reset*button in for 5 seconds and release. If there are any DTC’s the code will be displayed or the word “none” will appear if there are no DTC’s. Push the*odometer reset*button again to view additional codes if they exist.*

7 - Record the codes.*

8 - If DTC’s are not to be cleared, Press and release the*odometer reset*button. Part number of module will be displayed.*
NOTE: To determine if a code is current or historic, clear the displayed code by pushing in and holding the*odometer reset*button ( longer than 5 seconds) until 'clear' comes up. Release the*odometer reset*button. Turn OFF the*ignition switch. Run your bike and shut it down then recheck the DTC’s again by repeating steps 1 to 9. If the code is current it will reappear.*

9 – Press and release the*odometer reset*button to continue to the next module.*

10 – Turn*Ignition switch*to OFF.*

On models not equipped with a tachometer "No Rsp" will appear when the tachometer identifier is selected.

"No Rsp" (no response) will also appear if the run/off switch is in the off position when doing this procedure.

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HFSM = Hands Free Security Module
TSM =*Turn signal*module*

Priority/DTC/Fault condition
1. P0605 ECM FLASH Memory Error*
2. P0603 ECM EEPROM Memory Error*
3. U1300 ECM Serial Data Low*
4. U1301 ECM Serial Data High*
5. U1097 Loss of*Speedometer*Serial Data to ECM
6. U1064 Loss of TSM/FSFM Serial Data to ECM*
7. P1003 System relay contacts open
8. P1002 System Relay Coil High/Shorted*
9. P1001 System Relay Coil Open/Low*
10. P1004 System Relay Contacts Closed*
11. P1009 Incorrect Password*
12. P1010 Missing Password*
13. P06415 V+Vref 1 Out Of*Range*
14. P06515 V+Vref 2 Out Of*Range*
15. P0373 CKP Sensor Intermittent*
16. P0107 Map Sensor Open/Low*
17. P0108 Map Sensor High*
18. P0374 CKP Sensor Synch Error
19. P1511 Throttle actuator control power management failure of throttle control actuator*
20. P1600 EFI Module Processor Internal Error*
21. P1270 TGS Validation Error*
22. P2107 EFI Module Processor Internal Fault
23. P2101 throttle actuator control motor circuit range/performace error*
24. P2122 TGS1 Low/Open*
25. P2123 TGS1 High*
26. P2127 TGS2 Low/Open*
27. P2128 TGS2 High*
28. P2138 TGS Correlation Error (Twist grip sensor)
29. P0120 TPS1*Range*Error*
30. P0220 TPS2*Range*Error*
31. P0122 TPS1 Low*
32. P0123 TPS2 High/Open*
33. P0222 TPS2 Low*
34. P0223 TPS2 High/Open*
35. P2135 TPS Correlation Error*
36. P2119 EFI Motor Throttle Body*Range*Performance*
37. P2100 EFI Motor Circuit Open*
38. P2101 EFI Motor Circuit*Range*Performance (Actuation Error)*
39. P2102 EFI Motor Circuit Low*
40. P2103 EFI Motor Circuit High*
41. P2176 EFI Closed Position Not Learned*
42. P1514 Air Flow Fault
43. P2105 EFI Forced engine shutdown
44. P1501 Jiffy Stand Sensor Low
45. P1502 Jiffy Stand Sensor High
46. P0572 Brake Switch Low
47. P0117 ET Sensor Low
48. P0118 ET Sensor High
49. P0112I AT Voltage Low
50. P0113I AT Voltage Open/High
51. P1351 Front Ignition Coil Driver Open/Low
52. P1354 Rear Ignition Coil Driver Open/Low
53. P1352 Front Ignition Coil Driver High/Shorted
54. P1355 Rear Ignition Coil Driver High/Shorted
55. P1357 Front Cylinder Combustion Intermittent
56. P1358 Rear Cylinder Combustion Intermittent
57. P0261 Front Injector Open/Low
58. P0263 Rear Injector Open/Low
59. P0262 Front Injector High
60. P0264 Rear Injector High
61. P0562 Battery Voltage Low
62. P0563 Battery Voltage High
63. P0501 VSS Sensor Low
64. P0502 VSS Sensor High/Open..
65. P1356 Rear Cylinder No Combustion
66. P1353 Front Cylnder No Combustion
67. P0444 Purge Solenoid Open/Low
68. P0445 Purge Solenoid High
69. P1475 Exhaust Actuation Position Error
70. P1477 Exhaust Actuator Open/Low
71. P1478 Exhaust Actuator Shorted/High
72. P0131 Front Oxygen Sensor Low
73. P0151 Rear Oxygen Sensor Low
74. P0132 Front Oxygen Sensor High
75. P0152 Rear Oxygen Sensor High
76. P0134 Front Oxygen Sensor Inactive
77. P0154 Rear Oxygen Sensor Inactive.
78. P1510 EFI Limited Performance Mode
79. P1511 EFI Power Management Mode
80. P1512 EFI Forced Idle Mode
81. P0577 Cruise Control Input High

Priority/DTC/Fault condition


HFSM = Hands Free Security Module
TSM =*Turn signal*module

1. U1300 Serial Data Low*
2. U1301 Serial Data High*
3. U1016 Loss of ECM Serial Data*
4. U1255 Serial Data Error*
5. B1142 Smart*Security System*Internal Fault
6. B1135 Accelerometer Failed*
7. B1136(HFSM) Accelerometer Tip Test Error
8. B1151 Bank Angle Sensor(BAS) Short to Ground*
9. B1152 Bank Angle Sensor(BAS) Short to Battery*
10. B1153 Bank Angle Sensor(BAS) High*
11. B1154 Clutch Switch Input Short to Ground*
12. B1155 Neutral Switch Input Short to Battery*
13. B1134 Starter Output High*
14. B1121(TSM) Left Turn Output Fault*
B1121(HFSM) Left Turn Output Open*
15. B1122(TSM) Right Turn Output Fault*
B1122(HFSM) Right Turn Output Open*
16. B1123(HFSM) Left Turn Output Short to Ground*
17. B1124(HFSM) Right Turn Output Short to Ground*
18. B1125(HFSM) Left Turn Output Short to Battery*
19. B1126(HFSM) Right Turn Output Short to Battery*
20. B1143(HFSM) Security Antenna Short to Ground*
21. B1144(HFSM) Security Antenna Short to Battery*
22. B1145(HFSM) Security Antenna Open*
23. B0563 Battery Voltage High.*
24. B1131(HFSM) Alarm Output Low*
25. B1132(HFSM) Alarm Output High*
26. B1141(TSM)*Ignition Switch*Low/Open
B1141(HFSM)*Ignition Switch*Low/Open

Pasted from <http://www.fuelmotousa.com/harleycodes.html>

 

04ctd and caberto thank you so much, Caberto--my goodness that was an awesome post, very informative about things I didn't even know existed. I know the dyno should do the trick but at $400 I will need to wait on that right now. I will definitely check the codes if I find any. You guys rock!