Ironhead A place to talk about Ironheads.

check valve

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 02-12-2009, 03:24 PM
softail04's Avatar
softail04
softail04 is offline
Road Master
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: lakeside ca.
Posts: 990
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default check valve

any body know anything about the check valve that is supposed to keep the oil in the tank / not engine??
have heard something about a easy repair or fix ??
other than starting it once a week or so ??
 
  #2  
Old 02-12-2009, 05:03 PM
IronMick's Avatar
IronMick
IronMick is offline
Stellar HDF Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: London, ON Canada
Posts: 3,171
Received 111 Likes on 91 Posts
Default

The check valve is in the oil pump. It prevents [mostly anyway] oil from draining into the case while the bike is sitting. For most of these bikes it seems to not work well.

For some earlier years you have to remove the engine from the frame in order to remove the oil pump. I do not recall which year started the flat on the frame rail allowing the pump to come off with the engine in - around 1977 or so.

So if you have that newer one it is not a hard job. Remove the oil pump and follow the manual. For the older models is, to say the least, more involved.
 
  #3  
Old 02-13-2009, 08:58 AM
Calwoodbutcher's Avatar
Calwoodbutcher
Calwoodbutcher is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: OC California
Posts: 775
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

You don't need to remove the pump to get to the check valve on older models. The check valve seat is part of the pump body. There is a ball and spring that closes oil flow with no pressure (that is what is supposed to happen anyway). The valve assembly is behind the fitting that has the pressure sensor on it (front of the pump). Remove the sensor and the fitting and the spring and ball will come out. DRAIN THE TANK FIRST. Clean the seat and replace the spring and ball with new ones.
 
  #4  
Old 02-13-2009, 09:40 AM
piniongear's Avatar
piniongear
piniongear is offline
Outstanding HDF Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 3,031
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

Along with Cal's suggestion of a new ball and spring, I would add this......
Insert the new ball into the pump body. Using a wood dowel and a small hammer, lightly bump the ball against the seat. I said lightly!
Now install the spring and sender unit............. pg
 
  #5  
Old 02-13-2009, 09:50 AM
softail04's Avatar
softail04
softail04 is offline
Road Master
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: lakeside ca.
Posts: 990
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

thanks for the info. I get tired of draining out the oil every time the engine gets full.. can you start the bike with the bottom end full of oil?? kick only??
 
  #6  
Old 02-13-2009, 10:00 AM
piniongear's Avatar
piniongear
piniongear is offline
Outstanding HDF Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 3,031
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

Sure can! It will just puke the oil out on your garage floor.
Be sure to add oil to the oil tank however........ pg
 
  #7  
Old 02-13-2009, 01:38 PM
IronMick's Avatar
IronMick
IronMick is offline
Stellar HDF Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: London, ON Canada
Posts: 3,171
Received 111 Likes on 91 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Calwoodbutcher
You don't need to remove the pump to get to the check valve on older models...
I stand corrected! and glad of it. Glad i now have the correct info.
 
  #8  
Old 02-22-2009, 07:10 PM
capt.rick's Avatar
capt.rick
capt.rick is offline
Intermediate
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I actually put a petcock into my drain plug so I could drain it easily. But tomorrow I will try to seat the ball with a dowel . I get anywhere between 11 and 20 oz. of oil in my sump over night.. someone told me try to stretch the spring out a little. tried that with no avail....
 
  #9  
Old 02-22-2009, 07:31 PM
piniongear's Avatar
piniongear
piniongear is offline
Outstanding HDF Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 3,031
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by capt.rick
I actually put a petcock into my drain plug so I could drain it easily. But tomorrow I will try to seat the ball with a dowel . I get anywhere between 11 and 20 oz. of oil in my sump over night.. someone told me try to stretch the spring out a little. tried that with no avail....
That is way too much oil leaking past the ball overnight.
Stretching the spring will only ruin it. Not what you want to do.

So what you do want to do now is:

Buy a new ball and a new spring.
Remove the old ball and spring.
Place the new ball into the pump.
With a short piece of wood dowel, place the dowel against the ball and tap the dowel end LIGHTLY with a small hammer to seat the new ball into the pump body.
Install the new spring and you have done all you can do for the oil leaking past............... pg
 
  #10  
Old 02-23-2009, 08:53 AM
capt.rick's Avatar
capt.rick
capt.rick is offline
Intermediate
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

PG,,, thanks its on order
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
STN
Engine Mechanical Topics
8
12-23-2016 05:01 AM
Fings369
EVO
3
11-07-2016 08:20 PM
smnort
Shovelhead
3
07-05-2013 10:01 PM
straydog13
Ironhead
22
10-13-2008 07:09 PM



Quick Reply: check valve



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:36 AM.