Shovelhead A place to talk about Shovelheads.

Name that jug

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 01-04-2017, 02:43 PM
jon loder's Avatar
jon loder
jon loder is offline
Advanced
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Reno
Posts: 64
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Name that jug

Can anyone tell me from this picture what kind of cylinder I have?

 
  #2  
Old 01-04-2017, 05:32 PM
panz4ever's Avatar
panz4ever
panz4ever is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Santa Klaus County, Cali
Posts: 7,274
Received 3,222 Likes on 1,483 Posts
Default

ZEL stands for Zodiac Enterprises Limited. ZEL was an agent for Custom Chrome to purchase and manufacture products in Taiwan. The agreement provided that Zodiac supply Custom Chrome with products that met certain specifications designated by the Company and, when necessary, provide the tooling necessary to manufacture such products.

Crude and cheap cylinders. Don't believe they are still being produced though.
 
The following users liked this post:
jon loder (01-04-2017)
  #3  
Old 01-04-2017, 06:01 PM
jon loder's Avatar
jon loder
jon loder is offline
Advanced
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Reno
Posts: 64
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Crude and cheap?!? Bugger!

The engine is a 1983 FXWG Shovel. It's a stroker. As near as I can figure, it's 1/4". It was actually a runner with less than 2k miles when I got it so I didn't worry too much about the details. The hone pattern is still visible inside the cylinders but I'll probably mic them as they come back from the coater. I'll also check the stroke after setting the jugs.
 
  #4  
Old 01-05-2017, 10:11 AM
panz4ever's Avatar
panz4ever
panz4ever is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Santa Klaus County, Cali
Posts: 7,274
Received 3,222 Likes on 1,483 Posts
Default

We used to complain about Dixie and Superior parts (which were japanese aftermarket) in the 60s and 70 and they actually turned out to be be good quality aftermarket.

Maybe a case can be made for Tawainese, but if you look at V-Twin parts (aka Tawain Ted), quality control and proper fitment is an issue that still exists.
 
The following 3 users liked this post by panz4ever:
Bohemian (01-07-2023), t150vej (01-08-2023), TwiZted Biker (01-05-2017)
  #5  
Old 01-10-2017, 01:29 PM
jon loder's Avatar
jon loder
jon loder is offline
Advanced
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Reno
Posts: 64
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

They look good all dressed up with powder coating and a soda-blasted head on top.

 
  #6  
Old 01-11-2017, 09:40 PM
Cosmic Razorback's Avatar
Cosmic Razorback
Cosmic Razorback is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 19,360
Received 16,749 Likes on 6,894 Posts
Default

Very interesting & cool!
 
  #7  
Old 01-12-2017, 11:18 AM
98hotrodfatboy's Avatar
98hotrodfatboy
98hotrodfatboy is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Poolville
Posts: 17,622
Received 4,810 Likes on 3,315 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jon loder
Crude and cheap?!? Bugger!

The engine is a 1983 FXWG Shovel. It's a stroker. As near as I can figure, it's 1/4". It was actually a runner with less than 2k miles when I got it so I didn't worry too much about the details. The hone pattern is still visible inside the cylinders but I'll probably mic them as they come back from the coater. I'll also check the stroke after setting the jugs.
So, have you figured out the bore and stroke yet? I saw you posted in another thread a +.030" piston which should Put you at 3.528 with the following link you can see what the oem specs for rings and clearances are.
https://www.wwag.com/cgi-bin/WebObje...keInstallation.
 
  #8  
Old 01-12-2017, 03:59 PM
jon loder's Avatar
jon loder
jon loder is offline
Advanced
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Reno
Posts: 64
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I figured out the bore. Well, kind of. I dropped the jugs off at the local machine shop and asked him to mic the bore. He called me back with 3.657". That's a 3-5/8 plus 0.032" so I concluded that it's a big-bore with 030 over.

I'm not going to try to check the stroke until I torque the cylinders back on. Since I'm not doing anything that will be affected by the stroke, I'll just enjoy the surprise.
 
  #9  
Old 01-12-2017, 09:00 PM
98hotrodfatboy's Avatar
98hotrodfatboy
98hotrodfatboy is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Poolville
Posts: 17,622
Received 4,810 Likes on 3,315 Posts
Default

Nice... If it is indeed stroked your looking at a 94" Shovel. You can get some real good power there....
 

Last edited by 98hotrodfatboy; 01-14-2017 at 03:48 PM.
  #10  
Old 01-13-2017, 07:21 AM
Joe12RK's Avatar
Joe12RK
Joe12RK is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: CT
Posts: 5,217
Received 1,410 Likes on 880 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jon loder
I figured out the bore. Well, kind of. I dropped the jugs off at the local machine shop and asked him to mic the bore. He called me back with 3.657". That's a 3-5/8 plus 0.032" so I concluded that it's a big-bore with 030 over.
Good information - but are you saying the measurements are off by .002 and you can round off, or do you think the cylinders are worn by .002? Are you going to go to +.040?
 


Quick Reply: Name that jug



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:08 PM.