Shovelhead A place to talk about Shovelheads.

from the ground up

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 07-04-2014, 07:11 AM
philmore81's Avatar
philmore81
philmore81 is offline
Advanced
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: America
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default from the ground up

I am thinking about building a vintage bike and was wondering if anyone here has been down this road. I am thinking about starting on ebay with a frame. Any suggestions will help.
 
  #2  
Old 07-04-2014, 08:26 AM
johnjzjz's Avatar
johnjzjz
johnjzjz is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: la la land jerzey
Posts: 12,266
Received 4,524 Likes on 2,865 Posts
Default

you cant do it that way - way to many special clips the bolts have heads that are stamped CP1053 - and on and on and on - you will never have a matching number unit when complete -- value is in the unrestored BUT its almost impossable today to find today

you are in the shovel area and vintage would be before AMF and they AMF contracted to buy harley in 1969 BUT did not pay for the complete conpany till 1971 -- so no harley till 1972 has a decal AMF on the gas tanks

now having said that 2 different bikes are involved if your looking vintage shovelhead harley - Flat side motor powered 1200cc units 1966 to 1969 than nose cone units 1970 and 1971 still had pogo seats and internal cable throttles and all came electric start and could have kickers as well delivered from harley before the AMF badge -

but you might be wanting older i am not sure - i just finished this one in the pictures

the last one is a file picture i did not take a completed one its a 1926 JD harely
 
Attached Thumbnails from the ground up-001.jpg   from the ground up-002.jpg   from the ground up-003.jpg   from the ground up-00x0x_3fmboy9k1if_600x450.jpg  
  #3  
Old 07-04-2014, 12:19 PM
FilthyLucre's Avatar
FilthyLucre
FilthyLucre is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: NW Florida
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
Received 34 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

Ditto on the above. Harley had their own screw and bolt making machines and used many non standard threads on them. The specialty hardware would be a near impossible task to try to collect it all one piece at a time. If you want to build a vintage pan head or shovel head one company sells a vintage kit that is basically a rolling chassis, frame, front end, tanks fenders, wheels etc. The advantage is that it would come with an MSO that would make it easier to title.
 
  #4  
Old 07-04-2014, 12:59 PM
philmore81's Avatar
philmore81
philmore81 is offline
Advanced
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: America
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

what is that companies name?
 
  #5  
Old 07-04-2014, 06:43 PM
FilthyLucre's Avatar
FilthyLucre
FilthyLucre is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: NW Florida
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
Received 34 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

I just checked their website. I got sticker shock but they have them from rolling chassis to ones with knuckle or pan motors included. vtwinmfg is the company. Look under bike kits in the classic section.
 
  #6  
Old 07-04-2014, 07:31 PM
johnjzjz's Avatar
johnjzjz
johnjzjz is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: la la land jerzey
Posts: 12,266
Received 4,524 Likes on 2,865 Posts
Default

i dont know by using america for a location - but 31 july and first and second of august the AMCA has a swap meet and national judging event in CT and we are vending if your somewhat local to that, i can show you what you might be interested in to restore and examples will be for sale as well
 
  #7  
Old 07-04-2014, 08:17 PM
Tom84FXST's Avatar
Tom84FXST
Tom84FXST is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Farmington ,MS
Posts: 15,368
Received 18,166 Likes on 5,391 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by FilthyLucre
If you want to build a vintage pan head or shovel head one company sells a vintage kit that is basically a rolling chassis, frame, front end, tanks fenders, wheels etc. The advantage is that it would come with an MSO that would make it easier to title.

Bikes are so cheap right now....why would anyone spend 23k on a bike kit that you couldn't sell for half that after you assemble it?....buy a bike, tear it down to the frame and restore it.

http://memphis.craigslist.org/mcy/4552771825.html


http://jonesboro.craigslist.org/mcy/4484565983.html
 
  #8  
Old 07-06-2014, 09:04 PM
run1fsr's Avatar
run1fsr
run1fsr is offline
Outstanding HDF Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 2,114
Received 66 Likes on 44 Posts
Default

Tom84FXST - I agree with you.

johnjzjz - That is a beautiful restoration !!
 
  #9  
Old 07-06-2014, 10:30 PM
shizzomynizzo's Avatar
shizzomynizzo
shizzomynizzo is offline
Advanced
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Detroit
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

So is a 72 junk?

Dud amf really change thungs after the first year?

Did quality suffer that bad? I know the mid 79 and changes in the later amf years weren't great but...

Thanks for the info
 
  #10  
Old 07-07-2014, 12:26 AM
FilthyLucre's Avatar
FilthyLucre
FilthyLucre is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: NW Florida
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 0
Received 34 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by shizzomynizzo
So is a 72 junk?

Dud amf really change thungs after the first year?

Did quality suffer that bad? I know the mid 79 and changes in the later amf years weren't great but...

Thanks for the info
My first Harley was a 72 and I rode it for 35 years until it got run over. I salvaged the motor from the insurance company and resurrected it in a later chassis.

AMF kept Harley in business and put a lot more bikes on the road. In 1973 and 74 they had a lot of labor problems and some complained of poor quality control. An AMF bike had better features than the earlier years. Alternator, disc brakes and a better carburetor. On the down side they started outsourcing parts to other countries. In 72 everything I could find on it was still American but on later years front forks, carburetors, starter motors, instruments came from Japan. They also used parts from Italy, Mexico and Taiwan. That trend continues today.
 


Quick Reply: from the ground up



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:31 AM.