14 fxdl primary knock
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14 fxdl primary knock
oh man....started the bike after work yesterday and noticed that there is a knock coming from my primary. I also noticed that when I am in low rpms and I gas it, there is a strange sound coming from the motor. almost like the sound that come from crushing a soda can. very strange. I have dont some research and found that the knock is either the compenssator nut being loose or my primary chain tensioner is worn. Either way Ill be into a project this weekend. I called the local HD dealer and found out that my warranty expired on oct. 2nd....wouldn't you know it.....anyhow, has any one dealt with this issue? any advice? the service guy told me that i would need a special tool to tighten my compensator nut but only hd dealers can but this tool? is this true? doesnt really make sense.....anyway, I'd appreciate any help/advice i can get, Thanks!
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oh man....started the bike after work yesterday and noticed that there is a knock coming from my primary. I also noticed that when I am in low rpms and I gas it, there is a strange sound coming from the motor. almost like the sound that come from crushing a soda can. very strange. I have dont some research and found that the knock is either the compenssator nut being loose or my primary chain tensioner is worn. Either way Ill be into a project this weekend. I called the local HD dealer and found out that my warranty expired on oct. 2nd....wouldn't you know it.....anyhow, has any one dealt with this issue? any advice? the service guy told me that i would need a special tool to tighten my compensator nut but only hd dealers can but this tool? is this true? doesnt really make sense.....anyway, I'd appreciate any help/advice i can get, Thanks!
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emperor wurm (10-21-2016)
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Apparently my bike came from the factory with the se compensator kit, which is supposed to be the "better" kit. The parts guy I talk to told me that i need to check the springs to make sure they are still in spec, if they are out, then I need to buy a while new kit which runs for 299. I really dont want to spend 299 dollars on this part. I am going to tear into the bike tonight after work and see what is going on. Hopefully I can get away with just installing a new comp nut and torquing it to spec to solve my knock.
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Yeah, I tired that. they said all they could do is sell me an extended warranty. Oh well, I dont like other people working on my bikes/cars anyway.
Apparently my bike came from the factory with the se compensator kit, which is supposed to be the "better" kit. The parts guy I talk to told me that i need to check the springs to make sure they are still in spec, if they are out, then I need to buy a while new kit which runs for 299. I really dont want to spend 299 dollars on this part. I am going to tear into the bike tonight after work and see what is going on. Hopefully I can get away with just installing a new comp nut and torquing it to spec to solve my knock.
Apparently my bike came from the factory with the se compensator kit, which is supposed to be the "better" kit. The parts guy I talk to told me that i need to check the springs to make sure they are still in spec, if they are out, then I need to buy a while new kit which runs for 299. I really dont want to spend 299 dollars on this part. I am going to tear into the bike tonight after work and see what is going on. Hopefully I can get away with just installing a new comp nut and torquing it to spec to solve my knock.
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emperor wurm (10-21-2016)
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So I pulled the primary, checked the Tensioner shoe, and it looked like it was brand new. No wear marks at all. I was surprised that it looked so good after 18K miles. I checked the compensator sprocket for wear or missing teeth, and nothing. Reinstalled the clutch and comp and torqued to 160 lbs. Before removing the the comp bolt, I checked to see if anything was loose and nothing. everything was tight and looked to be sound. Before I started pulling the primary cover off, I tried to put my ear on the cover to see if I could hear any knocking and i didnt, i did notice that my valvetrain was very very noisy though. Now, I know that twin cams are noiser than past motors, but this sound had gotten noticeably louder when I switched from mobil 1 to amsoil. After putting the primary back together, I did an oil change and went back to mobil 1. Then I rode the the red bull straight rhythm. After about 20 miles, the sound from the top end of the bike was pretty much gone. I could not find any other sounds from the motor once the oil was changed. Maybe I was tripping, but im glad I opened it up and check. better safe than sorry i guess....
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So I pulled the primary, checked the Tensioner shoe, and it looked like it was brand new. No wear marks at all. I was surprised that it looked so good after 18K miles. I checked the compensator sprocket for wear or missing teeth, and nothing. Reinstalled the clutch and comp and torqued to 160 lbs. Before removing the the comp bolt, I checked to see if anything was loose and nothing. everything was tight and looked to be sound. Before I started pulling the primary cover off, I tried to put my ear on the cover to see if I could hear any knocking and i didnt, i did notice that my valvetrain was very very noisy though. Now, I know that twin cams are noiser than past motors, but this sound had gotten noticeably louder when I switched from mobil 1 to amsoil. After putting the primary back together, I did an oil change and went back to mobil 1. Then I rode the the red bull straight rhythm. After about 20 miles, the sound from the top end of the bike was pretty much gone. I could not find any other sounds from the motor once the oil was changed. Maybe I was tripping, but im glad I opened it up and check. better safe than sorry i guess....
Now this sound was noisy, but it didn't sound anything like what you described. Hopefully that's all your was.
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So I pulled the primary, checked the Tensioner shoe, and it looked like it was brand new. No wear marks at all. I was surprised that it looked so good after 18K miles. I checked the compensator sprocket for wear or missing teeth, and nothing. Reinstalled the clutch and comp and torqued to 160 lbs. Before removing the the comp bolt, I checked to see if anything was loose and nothing. everything was tight and looked to be sound. Before I started pulling the primary cover off, I tried to put my ear on the cover to see if I could hear any knocking and i didnt, i did notice that my valvetrain was very very noisy though. Now, I know that twin cams are noiser than past motors, but this sound had gotten noticeably louder when I switched from mobil 1 to amsoil. After putting the primary back together, I did an oil change and went back to mobil 1. Then I rode the the red bull straight rhythm. After about 20 miles, the sound from the top end of the bike was pretty much gone. I could not find any other sounds from the motor once the oil was changed. Maybe I was tripping, but im glad I opened it up and check. better safe than sorry i guess....