Best way to get a 96 incher to the 100/100 club
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Best way to get a 96 incher to the 100/100 club
I've asked this question a ways back but thought the 96 inchers have been out long enough for a fresh inquiry. I have my 07 Deluxe (Stage 1 & dyno tuned) turning out 76 HP/83 TQ. I'm looking to get to 100 Ft/Lb of torque at the lowest cost and the least amount of new mods possible. I'm thinking the 103 kit along with new cams are the way to go and would appreciate hearing from anyone who's been there and done that. I'm also interested in how much they spent. My wrench estimates it will cost $2000-$2500 ( I already have a SERT). I probably won't do anything till summer but can't hurt to do a little research now.
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RE: Best way to get a 96 incher to the 100/100 club
marty,
I've just got an '08 softail standard with the 103 kit and cams. According to the HD accessories book this will only give me around 93 TQ and 77 HP. I've put in a race tuner and Vance and Hines two into one exhaust and this is claimed to give me an extra 8% but I wont know the final figures until I've ran the bike in and put it on a dyno, I've only just picked up the bike last week and only have 400km on it. This will still be short of 100 HP although the TQ will be just under. In my book it is cheap as I haven't done anything else to increase the power. I live in Australia so the prices are twice what you pay for in the states. AU $1,800 for stage II 103 kit, $900 for the race tuner and $1,400 for the pipes. The prices do not include labour as the dealer here will fit Harley parts to the bike free if done before delivery.
I've just got an '08 softail standard with the 103 kit and cams. According to the HD accessories book this will only give me around 93 TQ and 77 HP. I've put in a race tuner and Vance and Hines two into one exhaust and this is claimed to give me an extra 8% but I wont know the final figures until I've ran the bike in and put it on a dyno, I've only just picked up the bike last week and only have 400km on it. This will still be short of 100 HP although the TQ will be just under. In my book it is cheap as I haven't done anything else to increase the power. I live in Australia so the prices are twice what you pay for in the states. AU $1,800 for stage II 103 kit, $900 for the race tuner and $1,400 for the pipes. The prices do not include labour as the dealer here will fit Harley parts to the bike free if done before delivery.
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RE: Best way to get a 96 incher to the 100/100 club
I am kinda like you in that I would like to put my 07 train in the 100/100 club. Everyone seems to be going with the 103 or 107 with head work and cams. You might get more intelligent replies if you posted this in the engine section as thats where all the motorheads seem to hang out
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RE: Best way to get a 96 incher to the 100/100 club
I just talked to Jamie at Fuel Moto this morning. I'm doing a 103" build to my '07 FXST, and I'm going with a Power Commander instead of the Ract Tuner. Jamie told me that with a custom map (not the generic one from DynoJet's website), I can expect 93 hp and 100 ft lbs of tq. This is without head work, and only using HD parts. This is the 103" flat top pistons, with 255 cams. If you want "more" talk to HDWRENCH....he has after market ideas that will supply you with TONS of power. I chose to stay with MOCO parts (could be my loss in the end, but I'll live with it).
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RE: Best way to get a 96 incher to the 100/100 club
I did the Moco thing when my bike was brand new.
In my case (88"), I did the 95 kit with 204 cams, SERT and some dealer in-house headwork.
I'm in the 90's for sure, and it runs perfect.
I did this for warranty and reliability sake. SE parts & service is safe, warrantied at all HD dealerships and effective.
You will shine above others, until you run into the guy who has had some real motor work done....
If I were to do it again in the future, I think I would crate up my engine and send it out to GMR (HDWrench) and get the whole treatment..
In my case (88"), I did the 95 kit with 204 cams, SERT and some dealer in-house headwork.
I'm in the 90's for sure, and it runs perfect.
I did this for warranty and reliability sake. SE parts & service is safe, warrantied at all HD dealerships and effective.
You will shine above others, until you run into the guy who has had some real motor work done....
If I were to do it again in the future, I think I would crate up my engine and send it out to GMR (HDWrench) and get the whole treatment..
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RE: Best way to get a 96 incher to the 100/100 club
My current setup with the V & H BSS, quiet baffles, K & N hi flow filter, and dyno tuned made a huge difference to the bike's performance over stock. It sounds like the 103 kit with 255 cams should be at least as big a change if not more. I'm not looking to burn rubber at every light, just get that kick in the rear when you twist the throttle at low idle. Going from 83 to 93-100 ft lbs seems like a good deal for the price (103 kit and 255 cams). I was hoping someone had some experience with this mod and could tell me whether it was worth the cost. You guys down under must really love your bikes to pay the prices you get hit with.
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RE: Best way to get a 96 incher to the 100/100 club
I just got my bike back, an 07 FXSTC, from having the103 build w/ the 255 cams. I only have a little over 150 miles on it so I'm still in the break in stage and I've been kinda easy on it. I have rumped it once or twice though andI've noticed a HUGE difference in throttle response and low end tq. I don't know what I'm getting as far as the numbers because it will be another 300 miles or so before I get it dyno'ed. Keeping the MoCo warranty was a HUGE factor for me, I got the extended warranty and still have another 3.5 years to go so I wanted to keep it intact. I had the dealer do it all in 1 fell swoop...stage 1, pipes, SERT, A/C and the 103 kit. Costs $2,500 which I thought was a good deal, the pipes and SERT were $1,000 be themselves. Dealer said I'd be a little over90 HP and right at 100 TQ when it's all said and done...we'll see. All I can say is, I took the bike in bone stock, and got back a completely different bike. I can't wait till it's broken in so I can really twist the throttle but I can tell you from my experience, it was money well spent, I couldn't be more pleased...now if the weather would just warm up, in the 20's today[:@]