Stage 1 Re-Programming
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04-06-2014, 07:20 AM
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Stage 1 Re-Programming
Hey Everyone.
I was at my HD dealership yesterday talking about my bike, they were saying because I put a stage 1 air cleaner and slip on pipes on the bike that I should have the computer re-programmed to handle the increased airflow the bike is getting.
How true is this? Or are they just trying to squeeze money out of me.
I was at my HD dealership yesterday talking about my bike, they were saying because I put a stage 1 air cleaner and slip on pipes on the bike that I should have the computer re-programmed to handle the increased airflow the bike is getting.
How true is this? Or are they just trying to squeeze money out of me.
#2
04-06-2014, 07:24 AM
Hey Everyone.
I was at my HD dealership yesterday talking about my bike, they were saying because I put a stage 1 air cleaner and slip on pipes on the bike that I should have the computer re-programmed to handle the increased airflow the bike is getting.
How true is this? Or are they just trying to squeeze money out of me.
I was at my HD dealership yesterday talking about my bike, they were saying because I put a stage 1 air cleaner and slip on pipes on the bike that I should have the computer re-programmed to handle the increased airflow the bike is getting.
How true is this? Or are they just trying to squeeze money out of me.
Avoid the HD stage-1 download...doesn't do much. Look for a good aftermarket tuner.
#3
04-06-2014, 07:29 AM
If you're increasing the air in to the engine, and increasing the exhaust leaving the engine, you need to increase the amount of fuel going in to the engine, that's what the fuel tuner does, else you'll be choking the motor for life giving petroleum..
Do a search for fuel tuners on this forum, pretty much every question you have could be answered.
#4
04-06-2014, 09:16 AM
The bike will run with no problems without altering the ECM.
The ECM can compensate enough to handle the addition of an AC and pipes without any engine harm.
However to get the full benefit of the AC and pipes you need to either have the ECM "Stage 1" tuned or better yet add a fuel tuner.
The Dealer "Stage 1" ECM tune will make a difference, however you will not get a full "Stage 1" benefit due to the Dealer is limited on what they can do as to tuning because of EPA constraints.
IMO a fuel tuner is the better way to go and will complete your "Stage 1" upgrade.
It will give you better throttle response, increased mpg, cooler running and control decel pop.
The changes are not "night and day", but are very noticeable.
My recommendation is V&H Fuel Pak or Fuel Moto Micro Tuner, both around $300.
I've never tried the Micro Tuner, but reviews are good on both Fuel Moto and the Micro Tuner.
Keep an eye open on e-Bay or HDF's classifieds and chances are you will find a used Fuel Pak for less than half of the new price.
I got mine off e-Bay for $135 and have absolutely no regrets.
The ECM can compensate enough to handle the addition of an AC and pipes without any engine harm.
However to get the full benefit of the AC and pipes you need to either have the ECM "Stage 1" tuned or better yet add a fuel tuner.
The Dealer "Stage 1" ECM tune will make a difference, however you will not get a full "Stage 1" benefit due to the Dealer is limited on what they can do as to tuning because of EPA constraints.
IMO a fuel tuner is the better way to go and will complete your "Stage 1" upgrade.
It will give you better throttle response, increased mpg, cooler running and control decel pop.
The changes are not "night and day", but are very noticeable.
My recommendation is V&H Fuel Pak or Fuel Moto Micro Tuner, both around $300.
I've never tried the Micro Tuner, but reviews are good on both Fuel Moto and the Micro Tuner.
Keep an eye open on e-Bay or HDF's classifieds and chances are you will find a used Fuel Pak for less than half of the new price.
I got mine off e-Bay for $135 and have absolutely no regrets.
#5
04-06-2014, 09:34 AM
The bike will run with no problems without altering the ECM.
The ECM can compensate enough to handle the addition of an AC and pipes without any engine harm.
However to get the full benefit of the AC and pipes you need to either have the ECM "Stage 1" tuned or better yet add a fuel tuner.
The Dealer "Stage 1" ECM tune will make a difference, however you will not get a full "Stage 1" benefit due to the Dealer is limited on what they can do as to tuning because of EPA constraints.
IMO a fuel tuner is the better way to go and will complete your "Stage 1" upgrade.
It will give you better throttle response, increased mpg, cooler running and control decel pop.
The changes are not "night and day", but are very noticeable.
My recommendation is V&H Fuel Pak or Fuel Moto Micro Tuner, both around $300.
I've never tried the Micro Tuner, but reviews are good on both Fuel Moto and the Micro Tuner.
Keep an eye open on e-Bay or HDF's classifieds and chances are you will find a used Fuel Pak for less than half of the new price.
I got mine off e-Bay for $135 and have absolutely no regrets.
The ECM can compensate enough to handle the addition of an AC and pipes without any engine harm.
However to get the full benefit of the AC and pipes you need to either have the ECM "Stage 1" tuned or better yet add a fuel tuner.
The Dealer "Stage 1" ECM tune will make a difference, however you will not get a full "Stage 1" benefit due to the Dealer is limited on what they can do as to tuning because of EPA constraints.
IMO a fuel tuner is the better way to go and will complete your "Stage 1" upgrade.
It will give you better throttle response, increased mpg, cooler running and control decel pop.
The changes are not "night and day", but are very noticeable.
My recommendation is V&H Fuel Pak or Fuel Moto Micro Tuner, both around $300.
I've never tried the Micro Tuner, but reviews are good on both Fuel Moto and the Micro Tuner.
Keep an eye open on e-Bay or HDF's classifieds and chances are you will find a used Fuel Pak for less than half of the new price.
I got mine off e-Bay for $135 and have absolutely no regrets.
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04-06-2014, 03:34 PM
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#7
10-02-2014, 01:53 AM
The bike will run with no problems without altering the ECM.
The ECM can compensate enough to handle the addition of an AC and pipes without any engine harm.
However to get the full benefit of the AC and pipes you need to either have the ECM "Stage 1" tuned or better yet add a fuel tuner.
The Dealer "Stage 1" ECM tune will make a difference, however you will not get a full "Stage 1" benefit due to the Dealer is limited on what they can do as to tuning because of EPA constraints.
IMO a fuel tuner is the better way to go and will complete your "Stage 1" upgrade.
It will give you better throttle response, increased mpg, cooler running and control decel pop.
The changes are not "night and day", but are very noticeable.
My recommendation is V&H Fuel Pak or Fuel Moto Micro Tuner, both around $300.
I've never tried the Micro Tuner, but reviews are good on both Fuel Moto and the Micro Tuner.
Keep an eye open on e-Bay or HDF's classifieds and chances are you will find a used Fuel Pak for less than half of the new price.
I got mine off e-Bay for $135 and have absolutely no regrets.
The ECM can compensate enough to handle the addition of an AC and pipes without any engine harm.
However to get the full benefit of the AC and pipes you need to either have the ECM "Stage 1" tuned or better yet add a fuel tuner.
The Dealer "Stage 1" ECM tune will make a difference, however you will not get a full "Stage 1" benefit due to the Dealer is limited on what they can do as to tuning because of EPA constraints.
IMO a fuel tuner is the better way to go and will complete your "Stage 1" upgrade.
It will give you better throttle response, increased mpg, cooler running and control decel pop.
The changes are not "night and day", but are very noticeable.
My recommendation is V&H Fuel Pak or Fuel Moto Micro Tuner, both around $300.
I've never tried the Micro Tuner, but reviews are good on both Fuel Moto and the Micro Tuner.
Keep an eye open on e-Bay or HDF's classifieds and chances are you will find a used Fuel Pak for less than half of the new price.
I got mine off e-Bay for $135 and have absolutely no regrets.
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#8
10-02-2014, 04:34 AM
The bike will run with no problems without altering the ECM.
The ECM can compensate enough to handle the addition of an AC and pipes without any engine harm.
However to get the full benefit of the AC and pipes you need to either have the ECM "Stage 1" tuned or better yet add a fuel tuner.
The Dealer "Stage 1" ECM tune will make a difference, however you will not get a full "Stage 1" benefit due to the Dealer is limited on what they can do as to tuning because of EPA constraints.
IMO a fuel tuner is the better way to go and will complete your "Stage 1" upgrade.
It will give you better throttle response, increased mpg, cooler running and control decel pop.
The changes are not "night and day", but are very noticeable.
My recommendation is V&H Fuel Pak or Fuel Moto Micro Tuner, both around $300.
I've never tried the Micro Tuner, but reviews are good on both Fuel Moto and the Micro Tuner.
Keep an eye open on e-Bay or HDF's classifieds and chances are you will find a used Fuel Pak for less than half of the new price.
I got mine off e-Bay for $135 and have absolutely no regrets.
The ECM can compensate enough to handle the addition of an AC and pipes without any engine harm.
However to get the full benefit of the AC and pipes you need to either have the ECM "Stage 1" tuned or better yet add a fuel tuner.
The Dealer "Stage 1" ECM tune will make a difference, however you will not get a full "Stage 1" benefit due to the Dealer is limited on what they can do as to tuning because of EPA constraints.
IMO a fuel tuner is the better way to go and will complete your "Stage 1" upgrade.
It will give you better throttle response, increased mpg, cooler running and control decel pop.
The changes are not "night and day", but are very noticeable.
My recommendation is V&H Fuel Pak or Fuel Moto Micro Tuner, both around $300.
I've never tried the Micro Tuner, but reviews are good on both Fuel Moto and the Micro Tuner.
Keep an eye open on e-Bay or HDF's classifieds and chances are you will find a used Fuel Pak for less than half of the new price.
I got mine off e-Bay for $135 and have absolutely no regrets.
Despite some opinions and bad reviews, I'm running FP3 and it works flawlessly for Stage 1 on my bike
#9
10-02-2014, 10:51 AM
Road Captain
Same here...no issues with my FP3 either...have gotten very good results.
#10
10-02-2014, 09:03 PM
Road Warrior