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Exactly, I heard the translated explanation that Fedor gave about his strategy, I believe they guy, he is no rookie... just saw Rogers weak point in the first round and did his thing early second... I think Fedor "failed" finishing Rogers, he should have aimed better those two or three final punches and if you look closely you can tell that he hesitated after the first strike... I highly disliked Rogers attitude... Fedor has been always IMHO the better fighter and the better man on the canvas, he talks with his fists and nothing more.
Now I would like to see Rogers against Lessnar, let them kill eachother, they're the same weight and share the mental condition too.
Mimo.
you catchin what Rogers' camp is saying now?
I dunno...Fedor didn't look so good to me to be honest, but then again he didn't look all that good against Arlovski either and, well
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Mike Reilly is proud of the way Brett Rogers fought Saturday, even if he came up short.
Rogers took a hard right hand to the chin from Fedor Emelianenko in the second round of their Strikeforce headliner on CBS and was unable to recover.
Reilly, Rogers’ chief trainer, on Sunday told MMAWeekly.com that while he disagreed with the fight’s stoppage, he wasn’t going to second-guess referee “Big” John McCarthy.
“You can’t fall down like that in an MMA fight,” he said. “He was defending himself, he wasn’t knocked unconscious, but it is what it is.”
The former Sam’s Club employee drew first blood with a stiff jab that cut Emelianenko’s nose open. He took a hard left hand shortly after, but surprised many by gaining top position and raining down blows.
Though Emelianenko eventually reversed the position, Reilly scoffs at the Russian’s post-fight statement that he was in no trouble.
“(Fedor) saying he was in no trouble was just a flat out lie,” he said. “He was in plenty of trouble. It wasn’t in his plan to break his nose and lose the first round.”
The fight was an entirely new experience for Rogers, who earlier this year was struggling financially in his goal of becoming a professional mixed martial artist. Rogers went out of his way to promote the fight as much as possible, doing countless interviews and traveling to help the hype train run smoothly.
Reilly admitted that experience gap between Rogers and Emelianenko may have been too much.
“It’s a guy who’s been fighting at the top of the sport for nine years, as opposed to a guy who’s been fighting at the top level for five months,” he said.
Still, he would love for Rogers to get another opportunity to face the Russian.
“We would love to do it again today,” said Reilly. “Go find us 10,000 people and we’ll do it today.”
Which path Rogers and Reilly choose to get there is the question. Reilly said he was open to whatever Strikeforce had in store, but a few options stuck out.
“We would love the experience of going to fight in Japan,” he said. “And we’re on Overeem’s heels, so wherever he goes. He sets foot on American soil; we’re on him. We were supposed to fight him in September. It grates on our nerves that the champion that’s been holding his belt for the last two years hasn’t defended his belt.
“If we’ve got to go through Antonio (Silva) or Fabricio (Werdum), then that’s what we’ve got to do.”
Reilly said Rogers would take no mercy on his next opponent.
“Whoever Brett’s fighting next, they should make their peace with God.”
This brings up an interesting question. Did Big John leave the UFC???
He "retired" a while back, worked for...shit I can't remember...Dream maybe? He said some disparaging things about the UFC, came out of retirement, and was "overlooked" by NSAC and CSAC for some UFC events
keep in mind...refs are not UFC employees. They are State Athletic Commission employees, but...there's some shady linkage between the UFC and CSAC/NSAC.
btw...before anyone flips on me...I'm an MMA judge
Mike Reilly is proud of the way Brett Rogers fought Saturday, even if he came up short.
Rogers took a hard right hand to the chin from Fedor Emelianenko in the second round of their Strikeforce headliner on CBS and was unable to recover.
Reilly, Rogers’ chief trainer, on Sunday told MMAWeekly.com that while he disagreed with the fight’s stoppage, he wasn’t going to second-guess referee “Big” John McCarthy.
“You can’t fall down like that in an MMA fight,” he said. “He was defending himself, he wasn’t knocked unconscious, but it is what it is.”
The former Sam’s Club employee drew first blood with a stiff jab that cut Emelianenko’s nose open. He took a hard left hand shortly after, but surprised many by gaining top position and raining down blows.
Though Emelianenko eventually reversed the position, Reilly scoffs at the Russian’s post-fight statement that he was in no trouble.
“(Fedor) saying he was in no trouble was just a flat out lie,” he said. “He was in plenty of trouble. It wasn’t in his plan to break his nose and lose the first round.”
The fight was an entirely new experience for Rogers, who earlier this year was struggling financially in his goal of becoming a professional mixed martial artist. Rogers went out of his way to promote the fight as much as possible, doing countless interviews and traveling to help the hype train run smoothly.
Reilly admitted that experience gap between Rogers and Emelianenko may have been too much.
“It’s a guy who’s been fighting at the top of the sport for nine years, as opposed to a guy who’s been fighting at the top level for five months,” he said.
Still, he would love for Rogers to get another opportunity to face the Russian.
“We would love to do it again today,” said Reilly. “Go find us 10,000 people and we’ll do it today.”
Which path Rogers and Reilly choose to get there is the question. Reilly said he was open to whatever Strikeforce had in store, but a few options stuck out.
“We would love the experience of going to fight in Japan,” he said. “And we’re on Overeem’s heels, so wherever he goes. He sets foot on American soil; we’re on him. We were supposed to fight him in September. It grates on our nerves that the champion that’s been holding his belt for the last two years hasn’t defended his belt.
“If we’ve got to go through Antonio (Silva) or Fabricio (Werdum), then that’s what we’ve got to do.”
Reilly said Rogers would take no mercy on his next opponent.
“Whoever Brett’s fighting next, they should make their peace with God.”
I partially agree with that statement, but there is a thin line between efective/conscious defense and instinctive unnefective defense (Roger's)... That is the refferee's call and the difference between a man surviving or getting killed on top of the canvas.
Mimo.
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I partially agree with that statement, but there is a thin line between efective/conscious defense and instinctive unnefective defense (Roger's)... That is the refferee's call and the difference between a man surviving or getting killed on top of the canvas.
Mimo.
you agree with what statement? you quoted the whole piece.
me personally, if I were the ref, I would have let it go a few seconds more, but fact is a VERY BIG MAN went collapsing to the canvas, and absolutely without question had the thousand yard stare.
no one's gonna get killed for a couple more blows, but it's usually pretty hard to question McCarthy.;
I was right about you being a dick head though. Easy with the Quecequois shit too man. I guess if someone doesn't pick the same fighters you pick. They're crazy right.
Btw, Rogers wasn't intelligently defending himself. Unless you call someone in the fetal position after being rocked and his challenger about to mount him intelligently defending himself. No need to take unnessary punishment. The fight was done. Good call by big John. IMHO
P.S. Mimo, I'm heading down to Iberostar Maya for the hollidays. Are you anywhere close by? Would love to see that killer ride in person.
