The FuelPak FP3 and its use in an engine conversion.
#11
Over the next few months I'm going to be converting my iron 883 to a Hammer Performance 1250cc kit. Now I already have a stage one kit on the bike. Exhaust, air cleaner, and the Vances and Hines FuelPak FP3.
I'm going with just a basic conversion. New cylinders, new pistons, and STOCK 883 heads. I just don't have the money to port my heads and i'm happy with just the basic conversion.
Vance and Hines just released fuel mappings for the Screamin Eagle 1200cc kit. This consists of 1200cc cylinders, and heads made for the 1200. Im thinking I can Put the 1200 mapping on the the 1250cc kit and then auto tune it for the 50cc variance with the kits. Would this be too drastic of a change for an auto tune? What do you guys think.
I'm going with just a basic conversion. New cylinders, new pistons, and STOCK 883 heads. I just don't have the money to port my heads and i'm happy with just the basic conversion.
Vance and Hines just released fuel mappings for the Screamin Eagle 1200cc kit. This consists of 1200cc cylinders, and heads made for the 1200. Im thinking I can Put the 1200 mapping on the the 1250cc kit and then auto tune it for the 50cc variance with the kits. Would this be too drastic of a change for an auto tune? What do you guys think.
The true power of the FP3 is its ability to be updated for requests such as these. We work diligently to bring more features and power to the end user. If ever in doubt you can always contact customer service.
#12
My understanding was that the FP3 would not adjust timing and was a fuel only product. This is why I am waiting on an FP3 style of the powervision.
edit:
I just went to the FuelMoto site and they recommended not to use the FP3 for big bore kits and aftermarket cams.
edit:
I just went to the FuelMoto site and they recommended not to use the FP3 for big bore kits and aftermarket cams.
Last edited by Sw1; 12-09-2014 at 02:32 PM.
#13
The following are the tables available within the FP3.
Air/Fuel:
front/rear VE,
AFR,
throttle progressivity (primary and secondary)
Throttle table switchover gear
Acceleration,
Deceleration,
F/R charge dilution,
Closed loop range,
closed loop activation temp,
closed loop deactivation temp,
Map load normalization,
intake valve opening/closing angles,
Adaptive control min temp
Spark:
F/R spark,
spark vs. engine temp, spark vs. air temp,
spark vs. head temp,
adaptive knock retard,
max knock retard,
knock control activation temp,
knock control deactivation temp,
idle spark gain,
idle spark max,
F/R closed throttle spark,
Closed throttle spark max tps.
Performance mode:
PE afr,
PE spark,
PE disable rpm,
PE enable RPM,
PE disable TPS,
PE enable TPS,
Startup/Idle:
cranking fuel,
warmup enrichment,
iac crank steps vs. temp,
iac crank to run,
iac warmup,
idle rpm.
Active exhaust
First gear
Second gear
Third gear
Fourth gear
General:
Rev limit,
injector size,
MPG adjustment,
engine displacement,
Gear ratios (first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth)
System switches:
ACR,
Jiffy stand,
active intake,
active exhaust.
Air/Fuel:
front/rear VE,
AFR,
throttle progressivity (primary and secondary)
Throttle table switchover gear
Acceleration,
Deceleration,
F/R charge dilution,
Closed loop range,
closed loop activation temp,
closed loop deactivation temp,
Map load normalization,
intake valve opening/closing angles,
Adaptive control min temp
Spark:
F/R spark,
spark vs. engine temp, spark vs. air temp,
spark vs. head temp,
adaptive knock retard,
max knock retard,
knock control activation temp,
knock control deactivation temp,
idle spark gain,
idle spark max,
F/R closed throttle spark,
Closed throttle spark max tps.
Performance mode:
PE afr,
PE spark,
PE disable rpm,
PE enable RPM,
PE disable TPS,
PE enable TPS,
Startup/Idle:
cranking fuel,
warmup enrichment,
iac crank steps vs. temp,
iac crank to run,
iac warmup,
idle rpm.
Active exhaust
First gear
Second gear
Third gear
Fourth gear
General:
Rev limit,
injector size,
MPG adjustment,
engine displacement,
Gear ratios (first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth)
System switches:
ACR,
Jiffy stand,
active intake,
active exhaust.
#14
The fuelpak FP3 is definitely more capable than it was when it first came out. It was a basic tuner when it first launched.
#16
The conversion maps are available now with many other features. You can alter the displacement to suit your needs, under the engine displacement tab. Change that value to 76.279 cubic inches (1250cc). And you can also change the camshaft to what you have as well (if different). Once all these changes are made and flashed into the bike, then you would initiate an AutoTune session to bring it all together.
The true power of the FP3 is its ability to be updated for requests such as these. We work diligently to bring more features and power to the end user. If ever in doubt you can always contact customer service.
The true power of the FP3 is its ability to be updated for requests such as these. We work diligently to bring more features and power to the end user. If ever in doubt you can always contact customer service.
#17
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#20
It could have been a great product..but V&H are limiting it cos of their close loop corporate mindset. So I have given up on them finally. If Hammer Performance above said "u should ask the engine builder/kit provider what tuner to use"..he means it..and 99% of them will tell you the same "Get the PV, even fuel moto.
I have tried requesting n suggesting V&H to fix some major flaws and improve the Fp3's app environment or provide a PC software for 2 years. And nothing's happend, not even the Fix's.
You can see this for a fact in the pic below and the link to the thread..read my previous posts in this thread which have the comparisons and my email from back in '17(post #83). Hope this let's you know more abt what is going on under the surface. Cheers
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/vance...3-have-10.html
Last edited by HotRod917; 08-13-2019 at 01:22 PM.