Forty-Eight Project Bike Report w/ tons of pics
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Looking at the progress you're making on your ride, I'd say you're going to be done faster and have a very rad ride!!!
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We got a several hours work done yesterday.
Pulling up on the table for the first time-
When you get old like me, it sure is nice to not be kneeling or laying on the floor!
First thing was to remove rack...will be going on ebay.
Next was to get rid of the mess under the tank, plastic, coil and ignition.
Lifting up the tank and putting a 2x4 wrapped in a rag between the tank and the frame gave us some working room.
Plastic that was removed....gotta remember to hold that camera still when I snap a pic. lol
There's the wires that are behind that plastic...they all easily fit up in the tank channel, out of sight. We did wrap them in silicone self fusing tape before tucking them up.
That's better! Nothing between the rocker cover and the tank/backbone. Throttle cables pass, and until the Sportys go to TBW, I don't know a way around that.
From the coil side...Tank is up 1.5", coil is relocated, ignition key is relocated. Tried the red plug wires...I don't think I like them. Will be trying the black ones, or maybe wrapping them with silver to match the tank...leaving both ends black.
Here it is from the bottom looking up...all wires are in the channel, above the backbone. Pretty happy with how it turned out.
Cost of coil relo, ignition relo, tank lift, silicone tape: 126.90 and 3 hours of work (2.5 hours of that was on the wire tuck).
Friday should bring another 2-3 hours of time to do some exhaust work and a couple of benchmark videos.
Pulling up on the table for the first time-
When you get old like me, it sure is nice to not be kneeling or laying on the floor!
First thing was to remove rack...will be going on ebay.
Next was to get rid of the mess under the tank, plastic, coil and ignition.
Lifting up the tank and putting a 2x4 wrapped in a rag between the tank and the frame gave us some working room.
Plastic that was removed....gotta remember to hold that camera still when I snap a pic. lol
There's the wires that are behind that plastic...they all easily fit up in the tank channel, out of sight. We did wrap them in silicone self fusing tape before tucking them up.
That's better! Nothing between the rocker cover and the tank/backbone. Throttle cables pass, and until the Sportys go to TBW, I don't know a way around that.
From the coil side...Tank is up 1.5", coil is relocated, ignition key is relocated. Tried the red plug wires...I don't think I like them. Will be trying the black ones, or maybe wrapping them with silver to match the tank...leaving both ends black.
Here it is from the bottom looking up...all wires are in the channel, above the backbone. Pretty happy with how it turned out.
Cost of coil relo, ignition relo, tank lift, silicone tape: 126.90 and 3 hours of work (2.5 hours of that was on the wire tuck).
Friday should bring another 2-3 hours of time to do some exhaust work and a couple of benchmark videos.
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Thanks man.
Yes, on the 2.1 gallon tanks there is enough room to do a wire tuck without a tank lift. It requires a bit more patience, and some of the wires will be along the side of the backbone (still in the tank channel) instead of all on top of the backbone...but it is doable.
It can even be done on a 3.3 gallon tank, check out this thread with instructions and pics-
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/sport...k-no-lift.html
Yes, on the 2.1 gallon tanks there is enough room to do a wire tuck without a tank lift. It requires a bit more patience, and some of the wires will be along the side of the backbone (still in the tank channel) instead of all on top of the backbone...but it is doable.
It can even be done on a 3.3 gallon tank, check out this thread with instructions and pics-
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/sport...k-no-lift.html
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I've since put the black ones on, but will be finding some kind of sheathing for them to match the silver flake tank.
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Friday we had a couple of hours and got some more work done.
Swapped out the red plug wires for black, pic above. Those are still going to need some love.
The throttle cables going across the open area between the tank and the front rocker were bugging me, so re-routed them behind the tank lift. Much Better.
Installed some Tight-n-Low Trap Moto Pegs that are configured for the non-standard clevis. Really like the look and feel of them.
Then our little caravan of 2 Sportys and a pick up truck went to a semi-deserted road to do some timed runs and then some racing.
We marked off a 2/10 mile stretch and then took some videos (which should be coming up on youtube in a few days).
It was a bit of fun. But we are going to probably be doing 1/10 or 1/8 mile in the future. At 2/10 mile it is really too far away for the video to be effective from start to finish, plus, in stock form we are hitting 85 & 90 mph by the 2/10 mile mark. This is probably not something we want to do a lot of, for reason I will explain in a minute. lol
Why timed runs?
Dyno's are good and fun to get some numbers from. But we wanted to establish a base stock run in the real world, on the road, in the wind, how we ride.
Our plan is, that as we add any item to the bike that is supposed to improve performance, we will take it to the same spot and do a few runs to see if there is any perceptible/measurable, on the road, improvement.
We'll still do dyno runs, like we've always done, to get objective (but not, real world-on the road) differences - improves, neutral or makes worse numbers.
So, back to the fun.
We made 7 runs of the 48 in stock condition (except for the baffle plugs already being knocked out when we got it).
Here's a pic of Devin lined up, ready to go (the videos are way more fun!) -
We then lined up the 1250 Sporty and the stock 48 side by side and did 2.5 runs (we were going to do more).
The first two runs the 1250, as expected, was quite a bit in front of the stock 48 the entire way. I was on the 1250 and Devin on the 48. We were going to switch, because Devin is quite a bit faster off the line than I am...but even with the 1250 having that handicap (me ), it was still a couple of bike lengths ahead the entire time, and 5-8 miles per hour faster crossing the line.
On the 3rd run, at around 70 mph, I saw a LEO vehicle in the oncoming lane. Devin saw him at the same time (we were both in our lane). We immediately chopped the throttle and started braking...hoping and praying it was a Sheriff or Police. As we passed him, we saw it was a State Trooper.
We know pretty much all the local police and Sheriff, and they are cool with us. We have never met a State Trooper that was not extremely rigid in their tickets and demeanor.
We pulled over to the side of the road, fully expecting him to turn around, and we were already wondering how expensive the tickets were going to be.
We saw him turn around, coming back our way. BUT, he stopped at where Mary was with the truck (she had been taking the video). He was there for a couple of minutes then turned around and went on his way!
Wow! We rode back to where Mary was and she said he was hoping everything was ok. She let him know we were just getting pics & videos of the bikes for our business. He was cool with that and went on his way.
WHEW! That was close, we have been there for about 40 minutes, in a 45 mph zone, doing runs ranging from 85 mph to 95 mph. We considered ourselves very fortunate, and decided to call it a day.
And YES, we got it on video...Mary got it, and it was also captured on the video mounted to the 1250 bike.
We got back, watched the video, laughed, and decided that we need to do shorter runs, so if we do get tagged with radar it will be in the 65 mph range in stead of 95.
Sorry for the long story, hopefully you will find the video half as interesting and funny as we did.
So, we still had a bit of time after that.
We pulled the stock slip-on's off and then cut the baffle out of them, as shown in this video-
Here's a pic of the first one-
And both of them, now ready to have the TTI's installed and slip-ons back on the bike.
That was all we got done on Friday.
In the next day or so we will have a few more hours to work...we should be able to go back and make some more timed runs, testing out the de-baffled stock exhaust with different size TTI's.
Swapped out the red plug wires for black, pic above. Those are still going to need some love.
The throttle cables going across the open area between the tank and the front rocker were bugging me, so re-routed them behind the tank lift. Much Better.
Installed some Tight-n-Low Trap Moto Pegs that are configured for the non-standard clevis. Really like the look and feel of them.
Then our little caravan of 2 Sportys and a pick up truck went to a semi-deserted road to do some timed runs and then some racing.
We marked off a 2/10 mile stretch and then took some videos (which should be coming up on youtube in a few days).
It was a bit of fun. But we are going to probably be doing 1/10 or 1/8 mile in the future. At 2/10 mile it is really too far away for the video to be effective from start to finish, plus, in stock form we are hitting 85 & 90 mph by the 2/10 mile mark. This is probably not something we want to do a lot of, for reason I will explain in a minute. lol
Why timed runs?
Dyno's are good and fun to get some numbers from. But we wanted to establish a base stock run in the real world, on the road, in the wind, how we ride.
Our plan is, that as we add any item to the bike that is supposed to improve performance, we will take it to the same spot and do a few runs to see if there is any perceptible/measurable, on the road, improvement.
We'll still do dyno runs, like we've always done, to get objective (but not, real world-on the road) differences - improves, neutral or makes worse numbers.
So, back to the fun.
We made 7 runs of the 48 in stock condition (except for the baffle plugs already being knocked out when we got it).
Here's a pic of Devin lined up, ready to go (the videos are way more fun!) -
We then lined up the 1250 Sporty and the stock 48 side by side and did 2.5 runs (we were going to do more).
The first two runs the 1250, as expected, was quite a bit in front of the stock 48 the entire way. I was on the 1250 and Devin on the 48. We were going to switch, because Devin is quite a bit faster off the line than I am...but even with the 1250 having that handicap (me ), it was still a couple of bike lengths ahead the entire time, and 5-8 miles per hour faster crossing the line.
On the 3rd run, at around 70 mph, I saw a LEO vehicle in the oncoming lane. Devin saw him at the same time (we were both in our lane). We immediately chopped the throttle and started braking...hoping and praying it was a Sheriff or Police. As we passed him, we saw it was a State Trooper.
We know pretty much all the local police and Sheriff, and they are cool with us. We have never met a State Trooper that was not extremely rigid in their tickets and demeanor.
We pulled over to the side of the road, fully expecting him to turn around, and we were already wondering how expensive the tickets were going to be.
We saw him turn around, coming back our way. BUT, he stopped at where Mary was with the truck (she had been taking the video). He was there for a couple of minutes then turned around and went on his way!
Wow! We rode back to where Mary was and she said he was hoping everything was ok. She let him know we were just getting pics & videos of the bikes for our business. He was cool with that and went on his way.
WHEW! That was close, we have been there for about 40 minutes, in a 45 mph zone, doing runs ranging from 85 mph to 95 mph. We considered ourselves very fortunate, and decided to call it a day.
And YES, we got it on video...Mary got it, and it was also captured on the video mounted to the 1250 bike.
We got back, watched the video, laughed, and decided that we need to do shorter runs, so if we do get tagged with radar it will be in the 65 mph range in stead of 95.
Sorry for the long story, hopefully you will find the video half as interesting and funny as we did.
So, we still had a bit of time after that.
We pulled the stock slip-on's off and then cut the baffle out of them, as shown in this video-
Here's a pic of the first one-
And both of them, now ready to have the TTI's installed and slip-ons back on the bike.
That was all we got done on Friday.
In the next day or so we will have a few more hours to work...we should be able to go back and make some more timed runs, testing out the de-baffled stock exhaust with different size TTI's.
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