Does the EPA require Motorcycle Companies to have breathers routed to intake?
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Does the EPA require Motorcycle Companies to have breathers routed to intake?
My first bike was a V Star 650, which still uses dual carbs. It came stock with an insane amount of extra mystery parts that I eventually discovered were all for EPA compliance.
I was wondering if the whole crankcase breather routed to the air cleaner for the intake is required by the EPA.
I got a 2013 Sportster. The previous owner put a Harley Davidson Brand Stage 1 air cleaner on it. I'm surprised that this upgraded setup still routes the breathers into the air intake.
I saw that Dark Kustoms has bolts that have tiny breather filters built in. I thought, why the hell wouldn't Harley Davidson just use something like this? Especially for an upgraded air cleaner. I'm thinking the EPA must have a mandate that says the manufacturers can't sell anything unless the breathers are routed back into the intake.
The only other explanation I can think of is having a separate breather filter could spew carbon and oil on the side of the engine and make it dirtier.
I was wondering if the whole crankcase breather routed to the air cleaner for the intake is required by the EPA.
I got a 2013 Sportster. The previous owner put a Harley Davidson Brand Stage 1 air cleaner on it. I'm surprised that this upgraded setup still routes the breathers into the air intake.
I saw that Dark Kustoms has bolts that have tiny breather filters built in. I thought, why the hell wouldn't Harley Davidson just use something like this? Especially for an upgraded air cleaner. I'm thinking the EPA must have a mandate that says the manufacturers can't sell anything unless the breathers are routed back into the intake.
The only other explanation I can think of is having a separate breather filter could spew carbon and oil on the side of the engine and make it dirtier.
Last edited by kyle76; 12-31-2015 at 12:14 PM.
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I went with Hammer performance and highly recommend it.
http://www.1250kits.com/xlaircleaners.shtml#airhammerxl
http://www.1250kits.com/xlaircleaners.shtml#airhammerxl
Those look really nice. Dark Kustoms has two different round ones I really like.
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My first bike was a V Star 650, which still uses dual carbs. It came stock with an insane amount of extra mystery parts that I eventually discovered were all for EPA compliance.
I was wondering if the whole crankcase breather routed to the air cleaner for the intake is required by the EPA.
I got a 2013 Sportster. The previous owner put a Harley Davidson Brand Stage 1 air cleaner on it. I'm surprised that this upgraded setup still routes the breathers into the air intake.
I saw that Dark Kustoms has bolts that have tiny breather filters built in. I thought, why the hell wouldn't Harley Davidson just use something like this? Especially for an upgraded air cleaner. I'm thinking the EPA must have a mandate that says the manufacturers can't sell anything unless the breathers are routed back into the intake.
The only other explanation I can think of is having a separate breather filter could spew carbon and oil on the side of the engine and make it dirtier.
I was wondering if the whole crankcase breather routed to the air cleaner for the intake is required by the EPA.
I got a 2013 Sportster. The previous owner put a Harley Davidson Brand Stage 1 air cleaner on it. I'm surprised that this upgraded setup still routes the breathers into the air intake.
I saw that Dark Kustoms has bolts that have tiny breather filters built in. I thought, why the hell wouldn't Harley Davidson just use something like this? Especially for an upgraded air cleaner. I'm thinking the EPA must have a mandate that says the manufacturers can't sell anything unless the breathers are routed back into the intake.
The only other explanation I can think of is having a separate breather filter could spew carbon and oil on the side of the engine and make it dirtier.
We have an entire line of Performance Air Cleaners (Outlaw 425, 587, 636v and V-Stacks) that do NOT route the hot, oily, oxygen depleted air into the air cleaner. They all have a variety of External Breather Systems (EBS) that do NOT put oil on the side of the bike.
You can check them out HERE.
When you go to the link above you can see how much better it is for your engine longevity, and how much better it will perform with only clean, oxygen rich air going into the air cleaner.
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I've been on your website many times over the past few weeks. The 587 with the chrome bobber cover is my top favorite of any air cleaner. Just trying to pace myself right now and spread out ordering all the stuff I want.
Yes, as HOTLAP said, it is an EPA mandate.
We have an entire line of Performance Air Cleaners (Outlaw 425, 587, 636v and V-Stacks) that do NOT route the hot, oily, oxygen depleted air into the air cleaner. They all have a variety of External Breather Systems (EBS) that do NOT put oil on the side of the bike.
You can check them out HERE.
When you go to the link above you can see how much better it is for your engine longevity, and how much better it will perform with only clean, oxygen rich air going into the air cleaner.
We have an entire line of Performance Air Cleaners (Outlaw 425, 587, 636v and V-Stacks) that do NOT route the hot, oily, oxygen depleted air into the air cleaner. They all have a variety of External Breather Systems (EBS) that do NOT put oil on the side of the bike.
You can check them out HERE.
When you go to the link above you can see how much better it is for your engine longevity, and how much better it will perform with only clean, oxygen rich air going into the air cleaner.
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Some Sportster spit a bit more oil than others, and for those the discrete hose & filter style will keep the oil off the side of the bike.
Lots more info on EBS kits at this LINK.
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I use a home made catch can and filter unit that works as it's supposed to at keeping; oil/water and hot air from contaminating the air fuel mixture going into my intake/ combustion chamber.
You really don't want that **** in there.
What DK Customs provides is as effective as anything you can make or find out there. And most economical. I looked around.
You really don't want that **** in there.
What DK Customs provides is as effective as anything you can make or find out there. And most economical. I looked around.