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Old 10-12-2011, 04:57 PM
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Default 03 1200 hp and torque and new sportsters

IM curious to what it is at the wheel stock. I would like to compare to a new EFI sporty 1200. I know the new ones have more but they pack more weight and its all about power to weight.

Im pretty happy with my old one but in the back of my mind I would like to have a newer rubber mount mainly because of vibration and I ride a lot of interstates. I dont want to give up any power. I like the bigger gas tank on the custom as well. Generally speaking I like EFI for better starts ect....


Anybody been from the old to the new and what are your thoughts? The vibration gets old but you kinda just get used to it because you have to. I honestly dont want a bigger or more expensive bike and have even considered getting an 883 and doing a conversion. A 1200 is about right for what I need and dont need to spend a ton of money.

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I edit my post with a listing to this website here of listed hp/tq figures: http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/h...orty_stock.htm
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i heard that with the 2004 redesign the new motors had much better power. I though the improvement was from 55 HP to 70 HP? and the torque stayed at about 70? The EFI models I thnk run a little stronger.
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The new 1200's are 65hp and the XR1200's are 90hp. That is at the crank.
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i heard that with the 2004 redesign the new motors had much better power. I though the improvement was from 55 HP to 70 HP? and the torque stayed at about 70? The EFI models I thnk run a little stronger.
There was a rigid Sportster Sport that gave 70HP, don't know of a rubber-mount that gives that much, except possibly the XR.

Don't be put off by an 883 Custom or Low, as it is very easy to turn them into 1200s. Plenty on here about doing that, although I am quite surprised how well my SuperLow goes!
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There was a rigid Sportster Sport that gave 70HP, don't know of a rubber-mount that gives that much, except possibly the XR.

Don't be put off by an 883 Custom or Low, as it is very easy to turn them into 1200s. Plenty on here about doing that, although I am quite surprised how well my SuperLow goes!
The new 1200's put out an average of 65 HP, but can easily be bumped up to 70+ with stage 1.
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My 2007 1200C is supposed to be, (61x1.2)= 73.2 cu in, 70.5hp @ 5,800 rpm and make 79 ft lbs torque @ 3,500 and has a 28 tooth countershaft pulley. It an I together weigh 820 lbs with me at 210 with my leather jacket on.
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Well my 07 1200 with open Martin Bro's pipes, SE stage I AC open filter and PC III with mild dyno tune makes 71 HP at the tire and 68 tq, but the Tq is a bit lower due to the open pipes, but the bike still pulls like a train. I never dyno's it stock. Now my Step dad has a 2002 883 and I use to ride it alot and going from that to my 07 EFI rubber mount is night and day and i'm not just talking about the power, I'm talking over all bike lay out. the 2004 and up have a better look and feel IMO then the 03 and older rigid mount bikes. The EFI starts right up, need really no warm up time, pulls very hard stock and over all just runs and rides better. His bike has alot of vibration in the bars, seat and pegs, where my bike does not. I will not own a Sporty that is any older than a 2007. I had a 2008 1200C that just had and SE Stage I AC, HD download and Rush slip on and it ran god and pulled good, but not like my XL50. The 4.5 gal tank was nice as we could ride alot farther without having to worry about gas as where my 3.3 with the mods I have trips the low fuel light around 75-85 miles and the bike I had with the 4.5 tank the light did not trip till around 120 miles or more.

I say get a 2007 and up 1200C and you will be super happy with it and once you start the power mods you will really be happy.
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Why don't you go to a demo days or find a local dealer that allows test drives and try one out?
You know you can bump the power with a stage 1 but it will give you a good idea of the difference in vibration & power.
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FYI - The XR1200 motor is not rubber mounted. Factory literature states 90 crank HD.
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