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I see the 2014 Sportster 1200C has increased compression, 10:1 versus 9.7:1 for the 2013.

The torque spec is also different, 2014 has 70.8 Ft Lbs at 3500 rpm, the 2013 shows 79 ft lbs at 3250.


I wonder what else has changed?
 
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ABS breaks as well = 2014
 
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Normally an increase in compression is accompanied by an increase in torque. I wonder if the bikes for all 50 states have been California'd. That's real bad if true.
 
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It is said the big twins have new cams, perhaps the Sportys do too. Peak torque may be down a little, but it may have a wider spread and be quicker to ride.
 
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Originally Posted by 1200Cdriver
Normally an increase in compression is accompanied by an increase in torque. I wonder if the bikes for all 50 states have been California'd. That's real bad if true.
Might be right, I do not see the California emissions option listed as a additional cost on the 2014 models, it is listed for the 2013s.
 
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Originally Posted by grbrown
It is said the big twins have new cams, perhaps the Sportys do too. Peak torque may be down a little, but it may have a wider spread and be quicker to ride.
I have no idea why the change in the spec, but this is a very intelligent comment. A high peak torque value is not necessarily a good thing. An ideal torque curve is table flat, meaning the cylinder fill is constant across the rpm range. A table flat torque curve produces a straight diagonal power curve going up and to the right. A setup that pulls hard at one rpm (thus creating a high peak torque value) at the expense of other rpm's is generally less desirable on a street bike. So the peak torque number really doesn't tell you much by itself, it's how it's spread out that matters.
 
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I wonder as well, what impact the addition of cats in the 2014 exhaust might be.
 
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I guess they didn't nothing to the engine, just adapt the EFI managing unit to get new torque curves. That's the way they do it elsewhere.
 
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Don't forget H-D numbers are quoted at the crank, not the rear wheel.
 


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