The Best Oil for our Harleys is...
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#13
My neighbor got a new S&S 113" and after the break in oil was drained he put red line 20 50 in it. 300 miles later he was tearing down his new motor and all I had to do was look at the drained oil. It was a beautiful shimmery silver colored oil. Would make a great custom paint color.
Oil he put in was determined by the shop to be the cause of failure. Shop said to never use it. Not only do I trust that shop, I believe what I seen. I wouldn't run it in my 12 year old Kawasaki 6hp cub cadet push mower if it was given to me. I'd take it straight to a recycler.
Oil he put in was determined by the shop to be the cause of failure. Shop said to never use it. Not only do I trust that shop, I believe what I seen. I wouldn't run it in my 12 year old Kawasaki 6hp cub cadet push mower if it was given to me. I'd take it straight to a recycler.
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#16
My neighbor got a new S&S 113" and after the break in oil was drained he put red line 20 50 in it. 300 miles later he was tearing down his new motor and all I had to do was look at the drained oil. It was a beautiful shimmery silver colored oil. Would make a great custom paint color.
Oil he put in was determined by the shop to be the cause of failure. Shop said to never use it. Not only do I trust that shop, I believe what I seen. I wouldn't run it in my 12 year old Kawasaki 6hp cub cadet push mower if it was given to me. I'd take it straight to a recycler.
Oil he put in was determined by the shop to be the cause of failure. Shop said to never use it. Not only do I trust that shop, I believe what I seen. I wouldn't run it in my 12 year old Kawasaki 6hp cub cadet push mower if it was given to me. I'd take it straight to a recycler.
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#18
API SJ rated oil of any brand whether syn or mineral of 20/50 weight.
No need to spend more money for any oil that will only perform to the SJ rating.
A fool and his money are soon parted. A $3.98 20/50 SJ rated Valvoline oil at Walmart after a 100,000+ miles of use show no more wear or deterioration than the highest dollar syn.
A study of 74 new cabs put into service in New York City using Mobile I did not show one penny of maintenance savings on the fleet service data after seven years of use. That says it all. Of course everyone knows that higher priced oils will work better in HD motors because they paid more for it.
By the way any oil that has the energy savings logo on it has Molybdenum in it. I know an engineer that buys moly in powder form and adds a certain amount per quart to his Rune. It has a wet clutch and he says it has never slipped. He has many high speed traffic tickets to show it doesn't slip. He's from Ontario and the tickets in the US don't go on his Canadian license. His goal is to have the engine last beyond 300,000 miles which is about double what the 6 cylinder Honda engine is capable of.
No need to spend more money for any oil that will only perform to the SJ rating.
A fool and his money are soon parted. A $3.98 20/50 SJ rated Valvoline oil at Walmart after a 100,000+ miles of use show no more wear or deterioration than the highest dollar syn.
A study of 74 new cabs put into service in New York City using Mobile I did not show one penny of maintenance savings on the fleet service data after seven years of use. That says it all. Of course everyone knows that higher priced oils will work better in HD motors because they paid more for it.
By the way any oil that has the energy savings logo on it has Molybdenum in it. I know an engineer that buys moly in powder form and adds a certain amount per quart to his Rune. It has a wet clutch and he says it has never slipped. He has many high speed traffic tickets to show it doesn't slip. He's from Ontario and the tickets in the US don't go on his Canadian license. His goal is to have the engine last beyond 300,000 miles which is about double what the 6 cylinder Honda engine is capable of.
Last edited by lh4x4; 05-10-2014 at 11:32 PM.
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I have riden so many thousands of miles with him right next to me. It may be hard for some to understand but it is what I posted. It ran perfect on break in oil, he broke it in per book. He changed the oil and it was obvious it failed and that was the brand. If it would have been another brand that failed I would have posted the same thing with X brand in place of it. Next 113" was break in per book, change oil to Mobil 1 syn and he is still running it to this day.
What more could there be to the story?
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That is the story. He lived across the street from me. He is what I call a real biker. He owns Ducattis, Yamahas, and even wears a Norton shirt while riding his Fat boy.
I have riden so many thousands of miles with him right next to me. It may be hard for some to understand but it is what I posted. It ran perfect on break in oil, he broke it in per book. He changed the oil and it was obvious it failed and that was the brand. If it would have been another brand that failed I would have posted the same thing with X brand in place of it. Next 113" was break in per book, change oil to Mobil 1 syn and he is still running it to this day.
What more could there be to the story?
I have riden so many thousands of miles with him right next to me. It may be hard for some to understand but it is what I posted. It ran perfect on break in oil, he broke it in per book. He changed the oil and it was obvious it failed and that was the brand. If it would have been another brand that failed I would have posted the same thing with X brand in place of it. Next 113" was break in per book, change oil to Mobil 1 syn and he is still running it to this day.
What more could there be to the story?
I believe the story but also think something is missing. It might have been really convenient for the motor installers to blame the oil for the destroyed motor.