I believe you that the engine failed, but not that any specific oil would have caused it. bad luck to be the oil in there when it happened. Or rather the oil was prevented from lubricating.

what parts were replaced due to the failure?

 

I just read this yesterday so it is fresh in my head. They were not new, but rather rebuilt. They also tested M1 extended mileage and wanted to test them at 12,000 OCI, however two of the three being tested had to drop out of the test due to engine failure.

It is an interesting read, but not all oils worked the same, and the M1 extended mileage dont look like it lived up to advertising claims.

 

People in cyber land amuse me sometimes. I always wonder what it is exactly people have done, seen and know. Everyone is always blowing up "well show me just one example of any oil that caused a lubrication failure". Even if I took pictures of the damage the same people would claim well thats BS, that damage was caused by GTX, redline dont do that.

See what Im getting at? I know two other guys who ran redline. One had heat problems and reading, of course on the web, a syn oil will run cooler. Well he dumped redline in. Now his border line steady temps went up to 250, then 270, my guess the next step was failure but he wisely dumped it after two rather short rides. Another guy just kept running it because he spent so dang much on it, he had constant 270 temps too. This was in the summer in NC but even regular dino oils of any brand were not running that hot in the same motors.

I know I know. Well thats not the whole story, there is something else, there is more to it. If this is the case then this more information will have to come from you. All I am saying is I will not touch the stuff, my mower will not even see it. i am certain a perfectly running mower with over 1500 hours on it will be sent to its death in less than one mowing if I were to. I like that mower too much to do that to it, and to even think of dumping it in my bike? Hah, right.

 

Now that you have explained it so we can understand, what oil has your neighbor been using so we can all switch over before we blow our engines after 300 miles. what oil do you use?
cyber land wants to know, don't leave us hanging, help us see the light.

 

Dusty is in his own cyber land. Theres only one truth.......his............and if your view isint his...........your an idiot.

 

I spent a few hours a couple of years ago going over the tested specs on a variety of all synthetics (no use looking at non-synthetics -- they never measure up). I have a HD VRSC which is water cooled. I found that the two top oils were Mobile 1 V-Twin and Amsoil Motorcycle oils. Comparing those specs side by side the only advantage Amsoil had over Mobile was higher temperature shear strength. I am quite sure that oil is the best for air-cooled engines because they do run at higher temperatures. I settled for the Moble 1 V-Twin because of its easy local availability and price. I don't need the the additional high temp shear strength that Amsoil provides in a water cooled engine. I didn't include oils that were not designed for use in engines that share crankcase with transmission.... and that's all I have to say about that.

 

I have worked in the transportation industry in AK since 1980. When it comes to cranking and starting cold engines running synthetic vs: dino oil there is a huge difference. Cold engines running dino sound like ****.. Faster lubrication on cold start-ups is the #1 reason I run synthetic.

 

Aaaaand this is it right here. I seen it fail. Just because it is $18.99 for a quart means nothing except people can brag about spending too much. Right? You sound like one of them no oil fails so run $3.99 a quart GTX. Oil dont fail, not even that dollar store stuff.

Yer a silly *****. I see you are adding a bunch of ............. To your one liners for fluff these days. Good job. Some day you might even get up to a whole two. Keep at it dooger! You can do it!!!

 

But there is a difference between synth to synth when it comes to cold starts.

mobil 1 v twin has no moly, mobil automotive does, Redline 20w-50 does.

that was the point.

 

let us recap. The OP asks for opinions as he wants to use Redline. Then you come on with a story that your neighbor blew his new S&S 113 after only 300 miles using Redline. You blame that Redline and would not put it into your lawnmower.

You are asked what oil you & your neighbor are using that will not blow our engines, still waiting for your recommendation.

I sound like "one of them" who does not accept everything I read and will ask for more details to back it up before I do.