08 rims on an 06
#1
08 rims on an 06
Wife has an 06 1200 Low with spoke rims. I picked up a set of cast rims off of an 08 1200 Low. I know that the 06 has a 3/4" front axle and 1" rear and the 08 has 25mm front and rear.
All 4 wheels have the complete bearings and spacers. Can I just transfer my 06 guts to the 08 or is there something different with the hubs?
Thanks Jim...
All 4 wheels have the complete bearings and spacers. Can I just transfer my 06 guts to the 08 or is there something different with the hubs?
Thanks Jim...
#2
Wife has an 06 1200 Low with spoke rims. I picked up a set of cast rims off of an 08 1200 Low. I know that the 06 has a 3/4" front axle and 1" rear and the 08 has 25mm front and rear.
All 4 wheels have the complete bearings and spacers. Can I just transfer my 06 guts to the 08 or is there something different with the hubs?
All 4 wheels have the complete bearings and spacers. Can I just transfer my 06 guts to the 08 or is there something different with the hubs?
To prove it, he showed my a set of wheels on Page 703 which fit 2000 and up, you just install the brg kit appropriate to your year of bike. The rims were Slotted 19" Front 44057-07 and the matching 16" rear 43929-08.
Sure looks like all the hub are the same. He said yes the 25mm bearing are thinner than the 3/4" and 1" but use spacers to compensate.
So can I just transfer the guts from my 06 to the 08? Or, can I just buy 25mm axles and leave the guts in the 08 rims alone?
Jim
#3
More confusion..page 686 of the 2014 P&A Catalogue lists bearing kits for 2006 3/4" front 43833-07a and 1" rear 43861-08a. This is what my dealer says to buy to mount the 08 rims. He said the hubs are all the same size.
To prove it, he showed my a set of wheels on Page 703 which fit 2000 and up, you just install the brg kit appropriate to your year of bike. The rims were Slotted 19" Front 44057-07 and the matching 16" rear 43929-08.
Sure looks like all the hub are the same. He said yes the 25mm bearing are thinner than the 3/4" and 1" but use spacers to compensate.
So can I just transfer the guts from my 06 to the 08? Or, can I just buy 25mm axles and leave the guts in the 08 rims alone?
Jim
To prove it, he showed my a set of wheels on Page 703 which fit 2000 and up, you just install the brg kit appropriate to your year of bike. The rims were Slotted 19" Front 44057-07 and the matching 16" rear 43929-08.
Sure looks like all the hub are the same. He said yes the 25mm bearing are thinner than the 3/4" and 1" but use spacers to compensate.
So can I just transfer the guts from my 06 to the 08? Or, can I just buy 25mm axles and leave the guts in the 08 rims alone?
Jim
I believe on 08 wheels you can install the bearing and axle hardware from the 06. In 09 HD went to single row wheel bearings and things changed.
And just an FYI:
Rims are the outer part (hoop) of the wheel. The rim is attached to the spokes, which are attached to the hub, which together make a wheel.
#5
No, a 25mm axle won't fit through the holes in the forks or swingarn.
I believe on 08 wheels you can install the bearing and axle hardware from the 06. In 09 HD went to single row wheel bearings and things changed.
And just an FYI:
Rims are the outer part (hoop) of the wheel. The rim is attached to the spokes, which are attached to the hub, which together make a wheel.
I believe on 08 wheels you can install the bearing and axle hardware from the 06. In 09 HD went to single row wheel bearings and things changed.
And just an FYI:
Rims are the outer part (hoop) of the wheel. The rim is attached to the spokes, which are attached to the hub, which together make a wheel.
The hubs on the 08 and up are 5mm shallower on each side so the 06 bearings will stick out and not sit flush. I did think that the 25mm axle would be too big to fit in the 06 until I was sent this pic of a 25mm axle. You can use a 25mm in the 06 because it only the surface section that the bearing rides on that's actually 25mm OD...refer to the yellow arrows in the pic.
So once again I am being told two different things, but the pic is pretty convincing.
As far as what a wheel is composed of though, you were tight on the money....
#6
When soliciting advice on the Internet you have to be careful ...all kinds of experts out there...so with that said here is what I believe is correct based on my what I've been able find.
The hubs on the 08 and up are 5mm shallower on each side so the 06 bearings will stick out and not sit flush. I did think that the 25mm axle would be too big to fit in the 06 until I was sent this pic of a 25mm axle. You can use a 25mm in the 06 because it only the surface section that the bearing rides on that's actually 25mm OD...refer to the yellow arrows in the pic.
So once again I am being told two different things, but the pic is pretty convincing.
As far as what a wheel is composed of though, you were tight on the money....
The hubs on the 08 and up are 5mm shallower on each side so the 06 bearings will stick out and not sit flush. I did think that the 25mm axle would be too big to fit in the 06 until I was sent this pic of a 25mm axle. You can use a 25mm in the 06 because it only the surface section that the bearing rides on that's actually 25mm OD...refer to the yellow arrows in the pic.
So once again I am being told two different things, but the pic is pretty convincing.
As far as what a wheel is composed of though, you were tight on the money....
I'm still not sure how you figure you're going to get a 25mm (.98") axle through the 3/4" holes on the front fork legs other than replacing them as well, but good luck.
#7
Well, you will notice I started my response with "I believe", because it's not something I have done personally, and since no one else had responded to your question, I though I would try.
I'm still not sure how you figure you're going to get a 25mm (.98") axle through the 3/4" holes on the front fork legs other than replacing them as well, but good luck.
I'm still not sure how you figure you're going to get a 25mm (.98") axle through the 3/4" holes on the front fork legs other than replacing them as well, but good luck.
I figure a new set of front and rear 25mm axles from the dealer is going to be pricey. That's why I am thinking about just bringing one of the 3/4" front bearings and one of the 1" rear bearings to the local bearing supply store and having them match them up but 5mm narrower. Then I can use my existing 06 Axles in the 08 wheels and have one 3/4" Tube and one 1" Tube cut exactly the same length as the 25mm ones. What do you think?
Jim
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#8
Check this out....problem solved maybe? Have to see if there is one for 1" as well.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-Wheel...11890a&vxp=mtr
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-Wheel...11890a&vxp=mtr
#9
The plot thickens...I pulled the 9 spoke wheels that were off (I was told) a 2008 1200L out of the box and had a look at them. There was only a bearing on one side of the front and on the rear. I guess the previous owner popped a bearing out of each wheel to salvage the spacer (steel tube) for his custom wheels.
Anyways I removed the remaining bearings and I measured them with a digital vernier caliper. Sure enough they were 52mm OD, 25mm ID, and 15mm wide as per the 2008 specs.
The bearings were mounted flush with the outside of the hub. Here is where it gets interesting. I was told the depth of the hub was shallower than 07 and earlier wheels because the new 25mm bearings were only 15mm wide, and that the earlier 3/4" and 1" bearings were 21mm wide. Which means the older bearings would stick out 6mm, so go with 25mm and new axles, or try to source skinnier 3/4" and 1" bearings.
I measured the depth and it was 21mm on both sides, front and rear. So the bearings were not seated all the way in, only flush, with the appropriate spacer holding them apart, the correct distance.
Sounds like I can go ahead and install 3/4" and 1" bearings and reuse my 06 axles. What do you think?
Jim
Anyways I removed the remaining bearings and I measured them with a digital vernier caliper. Sure enough they were 52mm OD, 25mm ID, and 15mm wide as per the 2008 specs.
The bearings were mounted flush with the outside of the hub. Here is where it gets interesting. I was told the depth of the hub was shallower than 07 and earlier wheels because the new 25mm bearings were only 15mm wide, and that the earlier 3/4" and 1" bearings were 21mm wide. Which means the older bearings would stick out 6mm, so go with 25mm and new axles, or try to source skinnier 3/4" and 1" bearings.
I measured the depth and it was 21mm on both sides, front and rear. So the bearings were not seated all the way in, only flush, with the appropriate spacer holding them apart, the correct distance.
Sounds like I can go ahead and install 3/4" and 1" bearings and reuse my 06 axles. What do you think?
Jim
#10
Final Answer & A Word Of Caution
The plot thickens...I pulled the 9 spoke wheels that were off (I was told) a 2008 1200L out of the box and had a look at them. There was only a bearing on one side of the front and on the rear. I guess the previous owner popped a bearing out of each wheel to salvage the spacer (steel tube) for his custom wheels.
Anyways I removed the remaining bearings and I measured them with a digital vernier caliper. Sure enough they were 52mm OD, 25mm ID, and 15mm wide as per the 2008 specs.
The bearings were mounted flush with the outside of the hub. Here is where it gets interesting. I was told the depth of the hub was shallower than 07 and earlier wheels because the new 25mm bearings were only 15mm wide, and that the earlier 3/4" and 1" bearings were 21mm wide. Which means the older bearings would stick out 6mm, so go with 25mm and new axles, or try to source skinnier 3/4" and 1" bearings.
I measured the depth and it was 21mm on both sides, front and rear. So the bearings were not seated all the way in, only flush, with the appropriate spacer holding them apart, the correct distance.
Sounds like I can go ahead and install 3/4" and 1" bearings and reuse my 06 axles. What do you think?
Jim
Anyways I removed the remaining bearings and I measured them with a digital vernier caliper. Sure enough they were 52mm OD, 25mm ID, and 15mm wide as per the 2008 specs.
The bearings were mounted flush with the outside of the hub. Here is where it gets interesting. I was told the depth of the hub was shallower than 07 and earlier wheels because the new 25mm bearings were only 15mm wide, and that the earlier 3/4" and 1" bearings were 21mm wide. Which means the older bearings would stick out 6mm, so go with 25mm and new axles, or try to source skinnier 3/4" and 1" bearings.
I measured the depth and it was 21mm on both sides, front and rear. So the bearings were not seated all the way in, only flush, with the appropriate spacer holding them apart, the correct distance.
Sounds like I can go ahead and install 3/4" and 1" bearings and reuse my 06 axles. What do you think?
Jim
knock out the 08 Bearings and the spacer....install new 06 Bearings and reuse the 06 spacers and axles from your old wheels...or just buy the kit from MoCo.
Word of caution when looking for info on the Forum....take it with a grain of salt, not as fact.....I was given info by someone who never did the job, when confronted they backpedal..."just my opinion"...I was looking for info from someone who had ACTUALLY done the job.
This kind of BS can cause you a lot of confusion, wasted time, even wasted labor and money for parts. So if you don't know, don't reply!!!
That being said, this post reflects my personal experience of ACTUALLY doing the job.
Whew...feel better now
Thanks....Jim
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