Why? So I make motor modifications and start with my stock VE tables. Won't the AT basic (correct) the VE tables for my new airflow? What does the TT or AT pro do that the AT basic won't do concerning VE table mapping?

Thanks.

 

Dyno Dan,

Thanks for your reply!

So, the TT would only add the ability for me to monitor what you mentioned above. I used the data log feature to record my CLI variance. Once my logs showed that my CLI correction was within 5%, I stopped basic AT. The only things I monitor now are ET, front/rear knock events and MPG. So, if I understand you correctly, TT is not going to add anything to or enhance my actual VE table mapping beyond what I have been able to do with the basic AT.

Thanks.

 

TT brings the ability to target any AFR you desire throughout the entire operating range of the motor. Any altitude, any load, any fuel (within reason) and just go ride. That is huge.

If some day you change motor parts, it will normally dial the fuel tables right back in. If you pick a really big cam with insane overlap, you may need Jamie to tweak a hidden table. No big deal. If you ever question the tune, just flip on the loggers and look at anything you want. Nothing is hidden from you.

Andy

 

Andy,

I asked the question to Dyno Dan, who is evidently Dyno Jet's Vice President.
I'm really sick and tired of hearing from you about your MLV product and you inserting yourself into posts answering questions that you have not been asked. Several weeks back I asked Jamie at FM whether you worked for him. He said you didn't. How about you back away from it and stay out of it and let Dyno Dan have some time to respond. If I had wanted your input, I would have asked you. I didn't.

 

That is huge but not ground breaking or new in this industry. TTS and Techno Research have been doing it this way for years. It has been a limitation with AT-Pro but MyTune lets you get around it. Glad to see DJ has finally figured it out.

 

If nothing is hidden from you. Why would you need Jamie to tweak a hidden table for you? Does his company do this for everybody or just the ones that bought the product from him?


Now if you are saying that you can log everything that the ECM is seeing. All the channels. That isn't true either. Nothing in the log shows anything about crank position. If it did. Pressure transducer would work real well for ignition timing.

 

and this being Houston (and suburbia hell) there is getting to be less and less back-road to travel for street tuning that either isn't populated with a bunch of idiots talking on cell phones and drinking too much redbull or patrolled by the local sheriff and constables offices. It's gotten to the point where I have to ride out 20+ miles to get any decent, unmolested, lightly traveled roads.

 

Jason, you know I am referring to all of the basic fuel trim fields that are used to develop and verify a tune.

 

I should preface my comments with an apology for contributing to the dilution of a thread that was of value to a customer, but is now waaaay off topic and no longer relevant. I'm sorry.


H-D develops their own calibrations and the code that "runs inside" the ECM for production motorcycles, just like any other manufacturer. They didn't need anybody's help from the aftermarket to get this done. TTS developed software to edit a H-D calibration (Mastertune) along with firmware and a vehicle interface system that allows you to "get and send" the calibration.......just like any other flash tuning company would typically provide.

Sure....here you go. It's stuff that exists in every software level that supports CL fuel control, so that would include 9, 23, 25, 44, 159, 171, 176, 200, 202, 204, 205, 218, 241, 242, 357, 358, 274, 614, 617, and 618. Any Certified Power Vision Tuning Center and various other partners can address these parameters.



It's all there in the OEM calibration, we have it defined and available to edit in WinPV because we found it to be quite useful.

 

Yes monitor only, or enable full time closed loop fuel control using WB sensor for feedback......which is really the intent of the product. If you have put in the time to use the AT-Basic feature and have also analyzed the data from various drive cycles, I'd say you're in good shape. I must also give you a pat on the back for doing the most complete job possible with the standard PV features! The only assumption is that you're truly running at the desired AFR in OL now that your bike in running a normal CL/OL routine. A quick spot check with a set of WB's, or better yet a visit to a dyno center with WB's (so you can check HP/Trq as well).