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HARLEY: Race tuner ECM questions

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Old 08-28-2016, 09:32 AM
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Default Race tuner ECM questions

Not looking for should you, legality, etc. Just wondering if its possible.

Could you have your/my bike (up to 2016) tuned at a dealer with a canned map/street tuner to be EPA compliant. And purchase another ECM and have to tuned with a screaming eagle race tuner (if you have one) or another tuner and swap ECMs if service or warrantee work is required? Would you also need to swap the TSSM as its married to the ECM?

Again please not looking for moral or legal discussions. Just curious if it could be done or would you need access to a digital tuner every time you wanted to swap?

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It would only be illegal if your idea worked.
Give it a shot and post your results.
 
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One possible way to do it- have the local indy do the mods and use Mastertune & ride the sucker. If you have a warranty issue, put the stock parts back on, and use the TTS to flash the original stock map into the ECM.
 
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Originally Posted by rigidthumper
One possible way to do it- have the local indy do the mods and use Mastertune & ride the sucker. If you have a warranty issue, put the stock parts back on, and use the TTS to flash the original stock map into the ECM.
This scenario was brought up at an Indy I visited with today.

Seems to have been used with good results

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Originally Posted by rigidthumper
One possible way to do it- have the local indy do the mods and use Mastertune & ride the sucker. If you have a warranty issue, put the stock parts back on, and use the TTS to flash the original stock map into the ECM.


Rumor has it that the dealership can tell if it has been flashed. Any truth to this? Was hoping a dealer guy could set us straight on some of this.
 
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Rumor has it that the dealership can tell if it has been flashed. Any truth to this? Was hoping a dealer guy could set us straight on some of this.
This is what people are saying about '17 and up bikes. Someone is just going to have to try it to find out whether you can get away with it or not. Hard to do since none of the aftermarket companies including XYZ sell a tuner for Milwaukee 8 bikes yet.
 
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This is what people are saying about '17 and up bikes. Someone is just going to have to try it to find out whether you can get away with it or not. Hard to do since none of the aftermarket companies including XYZ sell a tuner for Milwaukee 8 bikes yet.


That's why I am asking who I am asking. Rigid uses TTS and has access to a DT. A good resource to get to the bottom of this. Besides, he isn't known to blow smoke like I have heard from other dealers.


Are you talking about the dynojets tuning devices? Funny thing is. If you talk to the guys working to get the new M8 stuff out from DJ. They get a bit upset that somebody takes credit for their work, and rightly so.
 
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Depends on how sharp the dealer tech is- the "race tuned?" flag is only set by the SEPST or the old SERT, not by the TTS. If the tuner uses standard TTS naming conventions, it's a dead giveaway, as no factory cal is ever called DAC009-01-A0.MT9. If the tuner uses the edit calibration part number tool to cal it "31882-10D", then it looks to the dealer tech as a stock calibration, as "31882-10D" will be displayed in Digital Tech, and the "Race Tuned" will = NO, when using Master Tune.
This info was accurate last time I checked. I have not yet verified this on 2017 models, and may not get the chance.
 
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