Parade Flag Holder
#21
06-18-2010, 06:04 PM
Awright... Here it is.... A REAL WORLD USE FOR THAT TENTH GRADE GEOMETRY!! (Nobody better tell my old math teacher about this!) Measure your flag on both the long (A) and short sides (B).
"A" squared + "B" squared = "C" squared. "C" is the length of the diagonal of your flag. In other words from one top corner to the opposite bottom corner.
Why do you need this? Simple. Make sure your pole is slightly longer than "C" and your flag will not drag the ground if you are standing with the pole.
And if you use nylon flags, watch the exhaust!! Nylon melts to hot chrome!
"A" squared + "B" squared = "C" squared. "C" is the length of the diagonal of your flag. In other words from one top corner to the opposite bottom corner.
Why do you need this? Simple. Make sure your pole is slightly longer than "C" and your flag will not drag the ground if you are standing with the pole.
And if you use nylon flags, watch the exhaust!! Nylon melts to hot chrome!
#22
07-25-2010, 09:17 PM
Rivco Mount for Single Flag on an "06 Ultra
I liked what TooEasy came up with and just modified it for a single pole. I used on the Nation of Patriots (www.nationofpatriots.org) ride and the Flag held in place at 60 MPH with no problems. They asked that I not take for Flag over 60 MPH. I attached some pictures of the brace I came up with. The cross bar is an old Kuryakyn shift linkage, I used the 1"X1/8"X3' flat bar and 5/16" flang bolts grade 8 for strength.
#24
08-10-2010, 10:54 AM
I use a RIVCO Parade Flag Holder with two large 3X5 flags and I am very happy with this setup. Its expensive (about 200 bucks for the '09) but the quality is about as good as OEM. The Chrome is mirror finish and the components are heavy and very well made, it is such a good looking piece that I normally leave it on the bike between missions. There are two heavy duty brackets permanently attached to the fender mounts which function as a receiver and the flag holder itself can be removed in seconds by removing two safety pins.
The Rivco pole sockets are 1 1/4" inside diameter. This is how it looks on the bike:
The Rivco mount about to be installed:
These brackets are permanently mounted to the fender supports:
Sometimes we escort remains from city to city and we have to drive in the freeway. Two large flags create a lot of drag, so I made braces from pieces of aluminum flat stock and 1 1/4" pipe straps to make sure they would stay in place, it ended up being a very secure system:
And this is what my rig looks like:
The Rivco pole sockets are not drilled for safety pins, so there is nothing to retain the flag poles in place. The first couple of runs I duct taped them in place, but on a windy day or at high speeds the drag caused by the flags bends the Rivco mount up and down, so I looked at making some braces, which turned out to be very easy and unexpensive. After a mission, I take them off by removing four nylocks (nylon lock nuts) and sliding the hook ends off the shock mounts. The materials came from Lowes or Autozone. This is what I did:
List of materials:
One rubber bungy cord (only the wire hooks will be used) from Lowes
two pieces of aluminum flatstock, 1/8" thick, 3/4" by 36" from Lowes
one bag (4 ea) 1 1/4" pipe straps from Lowes
two clothes poles, 1 1/4" X 6 ft in length from Lowes
Auto window washer hose from Autozone
Four 1/8 X 1 1/2 bolts with nylocks from Lowes
This is the flatstock I used:
The flagpoles are clothes poles, also from Lowes. They are 6 ft in length, which is the right size so a 3 X 5 flag will not touch the ground or the exhaust, also, they are 1 1/4" in diameter, which is the right size for the Rivco pole sockets:
Install one pole in the holder and bend a pipe strap over it:
It should look like this:
Drill a hole on one of the ends of a piece of flatstock. Attach a hook to it from the rubber bungy cord. Bend the hook with pliers and slide a wet piece of rubber washer hose over the hook:
Slide it into the upper shock mount. It should slide on and off easy:
Hold the other end next to the pipe strap so you can mark the hole for the bolt and to cut the flatstock to size. First, cut the flatstock, then drill the hole just a bit short, about 1/8" so the flagpole will be under a little tension instead of loose:
Now make the bracket for the other side, same procedure as above.
Then,
Use one of the pieces left over from the flatstock and make a "pole to pole" brace using the other two pipe straps that came in the bag:
Attach all the pieces loose to verify fit before tightening everything up:
My bike is stable again, up to a point. At speeds around 75-80 (yep, speed limit is 80 on the Interstates) or on extremely windy days, its still a bear to handle, but nowhere like it was before the braces, they are definitely worth the price and the 20 minutes or so it took me to fabricate them.
The PGR flag came from here: http://www.shop.twistersstore.com/pr...0&categoryId=6
this is a very high quality flag, with many missions at freeway speeds without fraying.
The US flag I bought locally, it needs to be a "storm flag" so it doesn't fray either.
US Code, Title 4, Chapter 1 (go here: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ ) states that a flag mounted next to the US flag cannot be at the same level, without specifying a measurement, so I mounted the PGR flag about 1/2" lower than the US flag, thus meeting the intent of the US Code and looking good at the same time. Code does specify that the US flag goes on the right side.
Regards,
The Rivco pole sockets are 1 1/4" inside diameter. This is how it looks on the bike:
The Rivco mount about to be installed:
These brackets are permanently mounted to the fender supports:
Sometimes we escort remains from city to city and we have to drive in the freeway. Two large flags create a lot of drag, so I made braces from pieces of aluminum flat stock and 1 1/4" pipe straps to make sure they would stay in place, it ended up being a very secure system:
And this is what my rig looks like:
The Rivco pole sockets are not drilled for safety pins, so there is nothing to retain the flag poles in place. The first couple of runs I duct taped them in place, but on a windy day or at high speeds the drag caused by the flags bends the Rivco mount up and down, so I looked at making some braces, which turned out to be very easy and unexpensive. After a mission, I take them off by removing four nylocks (nylon lock nuts) and sliding the hook ends off the shock mounts. The materials came from Lowes or Autozone. This is what I did:
List of materials:
One rubber bungy cord (only the wire hooks will be used) from Lowes
two pieces of aluminum flatstock, 1/8" thick, 3/4" by 36" from Lowes
one bag (4 ea) 1 1/4" pipe straps from Lowes
two clothes poles, 1 1/4" X 6 ft in length from Lowes
Auto window washer hose from Autozone
Four 1/8 X 1 1/2 bolts with nylocks from Lowes
This is the flatstock I used:
The flagpoles are clothes poles, also from Lowes. They are 6 ft in length, which is the right size so a 3 X 5 flag will not touch the ground or the exhaust, also, they are 1 1/4" in diameter, which is the right size for the Rivco pole sockets:
Install one pole in the holder and bend a pipe strap over it:
It should look like this:
Drill a hole on one of the ends of a piece of flatstock. Attach a hook to it from the rubber bungy cord. Bend the hook with pliers and slide a wet piece of rubber washer hose over the hook:
Slide it into the upper shock mount. It should slide on and off easy:
Hold the other end next to the pipe strap so you can mark the hole for the bolt and to cut the flatstock to size. First, cut the flatstock, then drill the hole just a bit short, about 1/8" so the flagpole will be under a little tension instead of loose:
Now make the bracket for the other side, same procedure as above.
Then,
Use one of the pieces left over from the flatstock and make a "pole to pole" brace using the other two pipe straps that came in the bag:
Attach all the pieces loose to verify fit before tightening everything up:
My bike is stable again, up to a point. At speeds around 75-80 (yep, speed limit is 80 on the Interstates) or on extremely windy days, its still a bear to handle, but nowhere like it was before the braces, they are definitely worth the price and the 20 minutes or so it took me to fabricate them.
The PGR flag came from here: http://www.shop.twistersstore.com/pr...0&categoryId=6
this is a very high quality flag, with many missions at freeway speeds without fraying.
The US flag I bought locally, it needs to be a "storm flag" so it doesn't fray either.
US Code, Title 4, Chapter 1 (go here: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ ) states that a flag mounted next to the US flag cannot be at the same level, without specifying a measurement, so I mounted the PGR flag about 1/2" lower than the US flag, thus meeting the intent of the US Code and looking good at the same time. Code does specify that the US flag goes on the right side.
Regards,
Thanks for the insight.
My main question is, how do you remove the ploes and flags, for riding to and from a mission? Also, where do you stow the poles, riding to and from?
#25
08-11-2010, 12:47 PM
I have wondered about this for over a year. I'm gonna take some time, and see if my '04 Ultra works with this set up.
Thanks for the insight.
My main question is, how do you remove the ploes and flags, for riding to and from a mission? Also, where do you stow the poles, riding to and from?
Thanks for the insight.
My main question is, how do you remove the ploes and flags, for riding to and from a mission? Also, where do you stow the poles, riding to and from?
Riding to and from a mission, the poles stay in the bike. I set them up at home before I leave, flags rolled up on the poles and covered with a sleeve, and then I roll them up after the mission and remove the poles when I get home. Some people roll up their flags and put rubber bands over them, some others use velcro straps, some use sleeves like these:
http://www.shop.twistersstore.com/pr...1&categoryId=6
but the sleeves are very easy to make. You just need two pieces of canvas about 3.5ft X 10in you fold it in half lengthwise, sew up the edges and the top, and sew a shoelace on the bottom, then turn it inside out.
Regards,
#26
08-13-2010, 10:07 PM
The 1 1/2 inch bolts, must be a typo.
I found 1 inch is way sufficient. There is too much bolt, and not enough threads, on the longer ones.
I had to modify he aluminun also, because I've got an after market trailer hitch, and mounting the Rivco took some ingenuity. Thus one six foot section of flat stock wasn't enough.
I opted for the steel, chrome plated, closet poles, also, that I got from Menards. (There is no Lowes close by, here in Wisconsin)
So far everything seems sturdy and solid.
Need to road test it first though, before I submit the pics of my fantastic looking hog.
Many, many, thanks on the info, and will be back with the photos soon.
I found 1 inch is way sufficient. There is too much bolt, and not enough threads, on the longer ones.
I had to modify he aluminun also, because I've got an after market trailer hitch, and mounting the Rivco took some ingenuity. Thus one six foot section of flat stock wasn't enough.
I opted for the steel, chrome plated, closet poles, also, that I got from Menards. (There is no Lowes close by, here in Wisconsin)
So far everything seems sturdy and solid.
Need to road test it first though, before I submit the pics of my fantastic looking hog.
Many, many, thanks on the info, and will be back with the photos soon.
#27
09-28-2010, 09:40 AM
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