Invoice price Road Glide Special $18,559.00
#11
10-01-2014, 03:00 AM
Now I feel stupid. I paid $19850.00 (List was $21,355 or something) plus fees for my '14 Softail Fatboy two weeks ago. Ugh, I need to learn how to negotiate better or something.
#12
10-01-2014, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Darryls48
Now I feel stupid.
Last edited by RKZen; 10-01-2014 at 06:36 AM.
#13
10-01-2014, 07:02 AM
Just.... wow.
These are businesses we are dealing with.
A. If they didn't make good money, they wouldn't be there.
B. If they didn't make good money, they would pay their staff less, and thus, have a very crappy staff.
C. You don't want to know the markup on other stuff you buy every day. Restaurants, grocery, computers, hardware...
These are businesses we are dealing with.
A. If they didn't make good money, they wouldn't be there.
B. If they didn't make good money, they would pay their staff less, and thus, have a very crappy staff.
C. You don't want to know the markup on other stuff you buy every day. Restaurants, grocery, computers, hardware...
#14
10-01-2014, 08:22 AM
Many years ago I looked into a dealership with a partner and got all the financial details on running the business. One expense not yet mentioned is flooring cost, which can be substantial. However, the sale of the bike is usually the lowest margin part of the operation. Some dealerships can literally survive on the margins from accessories, clothing and service.
#16
10-01-2014, 08:48 AM
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Just.... wow.
These are businesses we are dealing with.
A. If they didn't make good money, they wouldn't be there.
B. If they didn't make good money, they would pay their staff less, and thus, have a very crappy staff.
C. You don't want to know the markup on other stuff you buy every day. Restaurants, grocery, computers, hardware...
These are businesses we are dealing with.
A. If they didn't make good money, they wouldn't be there.
B. If they didn't make good money, they would pay their staff less, and thus, have a very crappy staff.
C. You don't want to know the markup on other stuff you buy every day. Restaurants, grocery, computers, hardware...
I have to agree, hell i bought a 15 pack of budlight yesterday for $9.99 ($.60 each) at the bar i pay anywhere from $2.75 to $3.50 each. no telling how cheap the bars get their beer.
its all supply and demand. we never hear harley is struggling becuae they cant sell bikes. we pay to play. dont want to pay? we can start buying used metric bikes for a few grand and do the same thing we do on our $20K+ bikes.
#17
10-01-2014, 09:00 AM
Just.... wow.
These are businesses we are dealing with.
A. If they didn't make good money, they wouldn't be there.
B. If they didn't make good money, they would pay their staff less, and thus, have a very crappy staff.
C. You don't want to know the markup on other stuff you buy every day. Restaurants, grocery, computers, hardware...
These are businesses we are dealing with.
A. If they didn't make good money, they wouldn't be there.
B. If they didn't make good money, they would pay their staff less, and thus, have a very crappy staff.
C. You don't want to know the markup on other stuff you buy every day. Restaurants, grocery, computers, hardware...
Gas, groceries, cell-phones, alcohol, bottled water, microwavable things, clothing that's all made in China----where are all the cool names for them ...like "stealership"
It's ironic because some of us waste money on some of the most foolish stuff (including myself) and we never take the time to think about cost----When I used to drink, I'd buy a $5 beer in the club, a $8 shot of liquor---wow, what great markup!!
Last edited by sfcmo357; 10-01-2014 at 09:03 AM.
#18
10-01-2014, 09:45 AM
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Exactly what I did. $7k for a used 07 Yamaha Stratoliner that is 90 hp stock. By far a waaaaaaaaaaaaay better financial decision for me. I'm not getting any younger and the days of a $20k toy are just not justifiable any more.
#19
10-01-2014, 09:51 AM
....... and that's when i stopped buying' shots downtown.
.... a nice bottle of Centenario is what, $20 ? .... i'll get at least 20 shots out of it @ home.
........ but then, there are no honkytonk angels @ home, either.
... oh well, that's why I have a Harley ...
...... if one does not like the mark-up on new bikes, buy used via private seller, ... issue alleviated.
.... a nice bottle of Centenario is what, $20 ? .... i'll get at least 20 shots out of it @ home.
........ but then, there are no honkytonk angels @ home, either.
... oh well, that's why I have a Harley ...
...... if one does not like the mark-up on new bikes, buy used via private seller, ... issue alleviated.
Last edited by groupw; 10-01-2014 at 10:04 AM.
#20
10-01-2014, 09:55 AM
The sales of the bikes is not the only revenue stream the dealers have. They also have parts, clothing, and most of all the service department. Many years ago, I was in the car business and one day on a whim, a friend of mine and I put together an entire car out of the parts department at retail for the part. That little (at the time) $9k Corolla totaled $210k in retail parts.
Later, when I was in business school, my team did our business analysis on a local car dealership and found that the vehicle sales were nearly a break even game. The biggest revenue stream at this particular dealership was warranty covered repairs.
It probably isn't too far off base to assume that most harley dealerships are making most of their money on parts and service. Selling us the bikes is just the invitation to the 'family' where we will continue to open our wallets on retail parts and services for years to come.
Later, when I was in business school, my team did our business analysis on a local car dealership and found that the vehicle sales were nearly a break even game. The biggest revenue stream at this particular dealership was warranty covered repairs.
It probably isn't too far off base to assume that most harley dealerships are making most of their money on parts and service. Selling us the bikes is just the invitation to the 'family' where we will continue to open our wallets on retail parts and services for years to come.
Griz