2014 Street Glide 120R may I pick your brains, please?
#11
Had my 120r now for about 9 months. Within first 300 miles i choose to replace the se266 cams with something else(Wood 408-6) moving the torque curve to the left, replaced the lifters with S&S lifters, installed adj push rods and reworked the heads and replaced the valve springs.
This was all after a 3 hour conversation with Bob Wood and my local indy.
Result was a much more ridable bike with a torque curve that starts at approx 2 k and pulls to around 5500.
HP and Tq are both north of 135 so engine is stout
I have not concerned myself with the belt or compensator as both are holding up well so far. I may have to deal with these in the future but for now no issues.
I have not babied the bike post engine install and in fact ride the bike fairly aggressively.
I do not have a lot of miles, approx 2 k, on the engine to date, however have dynoed and am using a PV as the tuner. Biggest issue im dealing with is which pipe to run as i am not a fan of D&D.
Currently running full sac x pipe but considering fuel moto XXX pipe to compliment the CFR mufflers.
My advice, break it in correcrly, ride it like normal. A 120 r is just a bigger version of the twin cam along with the associated problems of a bigger engine.
This was all after a 3 hour conversation with Bob Wood and my local indy.
Result was a much more ridable bike with a torque curve that starts at approx 2 k and pulls to around 5500.
HP and Tq are both north of 135 so engine is stout
I have not concerned myself with the belt or compensator as both are holding up well so far. I may have to deal with these in the future but for now no issues.
I have not babied the bike post engine install and in fact ride the bike fairly aggressively.
I do not have a lot of miles, approx 2 k, on the engine to date, however have dynoed and am using a PV as the tuner. Biggest issue im dealing with is which pipe to run as i am not a fan of D&D.
Currently running full sac x pipe but considering fuel moto XXX pipe to compliment the CFR mufflers.
My advice, break it in correcrly, ride it like normal. A 120 r is just a bigger version of the twin cam along with the associated problems of a bigger engine.
Last edited by bigskyroadglide; 12-31-2014 at 09:57 AM.
#13
If the dealer has done the initial tune, the break in is done and rings are set, not much you can do about it know.
I had one of the first 120's back in the fall of 2010, it was the kit form before the crate came out in 11. Take the advice and change the lifters out if you plan on riding it. I had the front exhaust lifter go out at 8800 and took out everything. Thought it was a isolated problem, rebuilt it and at 21,000 it happened again. Do your self a favor and change the cams while your at it. The 266's are great for top end but for street use consider something else. I switched to a T-man 660sm, a buddy used T-man 662-2, both were torque monsters. Woods 408 is another choice.
enjoy the power!
I had one of the first 120's back in the fall of 2010, it was the kit form before the crate came out in 11. Take the advice and change the lifters out if you plan on riding it. I had the front exhaust lifter go out at 8800 and took out everything. Thought it was a isolated problem, rebuilt it and at 21,000 it happened again. Do your self a favor and change the cams while your at it. The 266's are great for top end but for street use consider something else. I switched to a T-man 660sm, a buddy used T-man 662-2, both were torque monsters. Woods 408 is another choice.
enjoy the power!
#14
for what its worth an OLD OLD Harley wrench told me once you wana break one in by riding her like a baby for 100 miles then ridin her like a bitch for 100 miles--said to do this in the first 1000 miles. Did not give me a reason for this. I do know he had two bikes with well over 100K on em. No he did not own a 120R. Matter a fact I have never owned a brand spankin new one---real nice ride man!
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Got a '14 SGS 120R factory build. Here's how they built it:
Offset rocker support plate
Roller rockers
Wood roller lifters
Factory 266 cam
Replaced triple valve springs with dual springs
.030 head gasket
High-output starter
Vance & Hines High-Output Pro Pipe (single)
58mm throttle body
Deep Breather intake
Oil blow-by lines re-routed to catch can under motor
JAGG fan-assisted oil cooler low-mounted (set 180F)
Extra capacity +1.5 quart SE oil pan
V-Rod spark plugs
All software updates
ETA SE variable pressure clutch
I'm sure there are other things done to motor I do not know about
Drive it easy first 100 miles and have rpm limiter set 4500 rpm for first 1000 miles.
Dyno after first 1000 miles. Run MAP to 7000 rpm. Torque curve will be flat from 3000 to 6000 but there's still power at 7000.
VERY IMPORTANT: Have specific experienced veteran mechanic assigned to work on motor. Don't rely on just any wrench. My motor is signed by my mechanic and nobody touches motor but him and me.
Offset rocker support plate
Roller rockers
Wood roller lifters
Factory 266 cam
Replaced triple valve springs with dual springs
.030 head gasket
High-output starter
Vance & Hines High-Output Pro Pipe (single)
58mm throttle body
Deep Breather intake
Oil blow-by lines re-routed to catch can under motor
JAGG fan-assisted oil cooler low-mounted (set 180F)
Extra capacity +1.5 quart SE oil pan
V-Rod spark plugs
All software updates
ETA SE variable pressure clutch
I'm sure there are other things done to motor I do not know about
Drive it easy first 100 miles and have rpm limiter set 4500 rpm for first 1000 miles.
Dyno after first 1000 miles. Run MAP to 7000 rpm. Torque curve will be flat from 3000 to 6000 but there's still power at 7000.
VERY IMPORTANT: Have specific experienced veteran mechanic assigned to work on motor. Don't rely on just any wrench. My motor is signed by my mechanic and nobody touches motor but him and me.
Last edited by Sierra977; 12-31-2014 at 04:49 PM.
#16
#17
Never heard changing every 6000 miles? I try to do mine every 20,000 unless I change out cams and the current lifters aren't brand new. If your dealer is saying they need to be changed that often you might want to find a better mechanic and have him do a once over of your install?
#18
Never heard changing every 6000 miles? I try to do mine every 20,000 unless I change out cams and the current lifters aren't brand new. If your dealer is saying they need to be changed that often you might want to find a better mechanic and have him do a once over of your install?
#19
There us a mention in the SE catalog of evaluating lifters every 7500 miles as a wear item. After my catastrophic engine failure due to a lifter. You can bet your a$$ im going to check mine every 10K. Another engine failure is not what im looking for even if my lifters are S&S.
#20
There us a mention in the SE catalog of evaluating lifters every 7500 miles as a wear item. After my catastrophic engine failure due to a lifter. You can bet your a$$ im going to check mine every 10K. Another engine failure is not what im looking for even if my lifters are S&S.