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Old 03-28-2017, 04:25 PM
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Default HP out of the 110 screaming eagle?

I recently sold my 09 Road King with upgraded 103 stage 4. It made about 110 HP & Torque. I am looking into a 13 Road King CVO but think that stock is rated at less HP & torque than my outgoing 103 stage 4. Do you know the numbers for a stock '13 110 CVO? And what would have you done to get more out of it? I don't really need at 120r do I?
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I don't think you will be impressed with the CVO 110's having put that much work in your 103. The top chart is a 110 with heads and cams. the bottom 2 are stock. I hope that gives you a better idea.

 
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cycle -rama has a new cam out the cr660I which they recently installed in a 110 with there head work and it went off at 137/128 and it has a linear tq across the power band some thing to think about.
 
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You won't get a lot without upping compression a bit. A well tuned motor with a cyclrama 570 would be a nice runner. A 113 around 10:1,very little headwork and a CR 575 would be nicer. There are better combos with higher compression but that takes a little longevity out and adds that much more heat.
 
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Originally Posted by todd-67
I don't think you will be impressed with the CVO 110's having put that much work in your 103. The top chart is a 110 with heads and cams. the bottom 2 are stock. I hope that gives you a better idea.
The top chart is exactly what I got from my 107, stock heads, true duals and 777 cams. Certainly mine's lower on the HP, but the HP in your first chart comes on way late, I'm not spenting much time at 5500 RPM, dont know about you.

 

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I am making 94HP and 114 TQ with minor improvements to my 2010 110 CVO

Decatted stock header, stock CVO mufflers with 2" fulsac baffles, V&H VO2, SERPT with a good tune.
 
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Originally Posted by Keithhu
The top chart is exactly what I got from my 107, stock heads, true duals and 777 cams. Certainly mine's lower on the HP, but the HP in your first chart comes on way late, I'm not spenting much time at 5500 RPM, dont know about you.
Umm I am unsure what you trying to say. I merely put the charts out there from FuelMoto as a reference to the OP's question on expectations on a stock 110.

As for the 5500rpm mark for HP that is a calculated value at an industry standard. All Tq/Hp curves cross at 5252. The area under the TQ curve and where it peaks is what is important for street riding.

https://www.roushperformance.com/blo...er-and-torque/
 
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Originally Posted by todd-67
Umm I am unsure what you trying to say. I merely put the charts out there from FuelMoto as a reference to the OP's question on expectations on a stock 110.

As for the 5500rpm mark for HP that is a calculated value at an industry standard. All Tq/Hp curves cross at 5252. The area under the TQ curve and where it peaks is what is important for street riding.

https://www.roushperformance.com/blo...er-and-torque/
My point was supportive of the notion that you dont have to buy the 13 CVO to get the performance of a CVO with head work.

My 107 makes similar numbers, so he could go to a 107, with ported heads and 2-1 and do even better than mine for way less than the incremental dollars of trading the bike for a CVO.

My other point was about HP, and it wasnt about where it crossed, it was about where it peaked. HP peaks out way late in that chart.

I'm well aware of TQ, and the importance of it coming on as early as possible and staying for as long as possible
 
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Originally Posted by Keithhu
My point was supportive of the notion that you dont have to buy the 13 CVO to get the performance of a CVO with head work.
That wasn't the OP's question. He sold his previous bike and was looking at buying a CVO and was wonder what to expect performance wise. I posted the charts showing how bad the 110's stock perform.

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My 107 makes similar numbers, so he could go to a 107, with ported heads and 2-1 and do even better than mine for way less than the incremental dollars of trading the bike for a CVO.
Again that wasn't his question. He had a stage 4 bike and is aware of what can be gained from going 107. He was looking for what it would take to get to similar performance. Thus the graph from fuelmoto.

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My other point was about HP, and it wasnt about where it crossed, it was about where it peaked. HP peaks out way late in that chart.
Your bike doesn't have ported heads and runs out of air keeping the HP from climbing. If falls off just like a stock bike not taking advantage of the lift on the cam.
 
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I have a 2012 FLTRU with a 2016 110 Long block replacement (warranty) engine. I have upgraded the cams to SE259E's, SE Heavy Greater, V&H Power Duals/High Output, and the SEPST purchased in 2012.

Not really too far off of stock, but it is putting out respectable numbers. It is still running a canned map, so there is room for improvement, but is still putting out 112.91 BHP @ 5633.5 rpm and 122.78 Ft/lb @ 4122.6 rpm



I think the OP can expect good results. With the original SE255 cams and the rest the same, I was able to get 97.12 bhp @ 4918.6 rpm and 117.88 Ft/lb @ 3865.5 rpm

 


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