Ultra headsets 5 pin vs 7 pin question
#11
09-02-2007, 05:23 PM
RE: Ultra headsets 5 pin vs 7 pin question
Dougger ,,,, wmko1 ,,,,,
it is a bit more complicated than that ,,,,,,,
Harley headsets provide the pre-amplified mike signal ONLY ,,,,, Honda headsets provide the Dynamic mike signal ONLY ,,,,,
J&M has the ONLY headsets that will provide either type of mike signal, just by interchanging the lower section headset cord ,,,,,, ((see headset pages on the J&M website)) ,,,, so that the J&M's are the only headsets that can be used on most any motorcycle audio system ever made ,,,,,
as for a hand mike adapter ,,,, to be honest volume on those is very low and you would need to know if your particular mike has a condensor mike inside or a dynamic mike ,,,,,, and then get the wires in the right place on the DIN plug ,,,,
JMJOHN ,,,, john@jmcorp.com ,,,,,
it is a bit more complicated than that ,,,,,,,
Harley headsets provide the pre-amplified mike signal ONLY ,,,,, Honda headsets provide the Dynamic mike signal ONLY ,,,,,
J&M has the ONLY headsets that will provide either type of mike signal, just by interchanging the lower section headset cord ,,,,,, ((see headset pages on the J&M website)) ,,,, so that the J&M's are the only headsets that can be used on most any motorcycle audio system ever made ,,,,,
as for a hand mike adapter ,,,, to be honest volume on those is very low and you would need to know if your particular mike has a condensor mike inside or a dynamic mike ,,,,,, and then get the wires in the right place on the DIN plug ,,,,
JMJOHN ,,,, john@jmcorp.com ,,,,,
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09-02-2007, 07:52 PM
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RE: Ultra headsets 5 pin vs 7 pin question
ORIGINAL: JMJOHN
SteelCityScooter ,,,,,,
I have been in the courtroom more than once, defending J&M from frivilous claims,,,,, ((J&M was found to be 0% at fault by a jury)),,
the guy claimed that he flew 50 feet over a car after t-boning it in the side and when he came down his forearm pushed the J&M boom mike into his eye and damaged it beyond repair ,,,,,,,
when in fact he hit the side of this little car with his Gold Wing and when he slammed forward, he caught his small eyeglasses on the edge of the windsheild, poped the lense out and drove it into his eye socket ,,,,,, then he fell over to the left and hit the ground right next to where his bike lay ,,,,
now just imagine for instance that J&M get's into the helmetless headset business and some guy decides to use one of those without his helmet, gets into an accident, and has severe head injuries, that he can claim were caused by the speakers or mike on a helmetless headset ?!?!?! ,,,,
,,,,, you can ride without a helmet if you want to ,,, this is our country, the land of the free and the home of the brave ,,, where thank GOD we can all make our ownchoices ,,,,,,
but I am not going to put J&M in that kind of a liability position just to sell a few hundred/thousandhelmetless headsets ,,,, just does not make sense ,,,,,
SteelCityScooter ,,,,,,
I have been in the courtroom more than once, defending J&M from frivilous claims,,,,, ((J&M was found to be 0% at fault by a jury)),,
the guy claimed that he flew 50 feet over a car after t-boning it in the side and when he came down his forearm pushed the J&M boom mike into his eye and damaged it beyond repair ,,,,,,,
when in fact he hit the side of this little car with his Gold Wing and when he slammed forward, he caught his small eyeglasses on the edge of the windsheild, poped the lense out and drove it into his eye socket ,,,,,, then he fell over to the left and hit the ground right next to where his bike lay ,,,,
now just imagine for instance that J&M get's into the helmetless headset business and some guy decides to use one of those without his helmet, gets into an accident, and has severe head injuries, that he can claim were caused by the speakers or mike on a helmetless headset ?!?!?! ,,,,
,,,,, you can ride without a helmet if you want to ,,, this is our country, the land of the free and the home of the brave ,,, where thank GOD we can all make our ownchoices ,,,,,,
but I am not going to put J&M in that kind of a liability position just to sell a few hundred/thousandhelmetless headsets ,,,, just does not make sense ,,,,,
The helmetless headset only provides the option to use without a helmet the same product you are selling. It also provides another option for a specific product you sell, the zip on headset for a half helmet.
Yet you say only the helmetless headset is a liability..... thats interesting to say the least.
#14
09-02-2007, 09:10 PM
RE: Ultra headsets 5 pin vs 7 pin question
notlost_nc ,,,,,,
many different types of hand mikes etc could be made to work, but first they would need to be wired correctly and then tested to make sure they did not introduce RF squeals and such into the system ,,,,,,,
should be simple ,,, but sometimes it can turn complicated ,,,,,
many different types of hand mikes etc could be made to work, but first they would need to be wired correctly and then tested to make sure they did not introduce RF squeals and such into the system ,,,,,,,
should be simple ,,, but sometimes it can turn complicated ,,,,,
#16
04-04-2010, 07:44 PM
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Helmet-less headsets for my 99 Ultra
Has anybody used the 7 Pin Half Helmet Helmetless Headset Kit sold by IMC Motocom? I'm looking to buy the 7 pin set but wanted to know how they work, There link is
http://imcmoto.com/products/harley-h...headset-4.html
Thanks for any input.
Charlie
http://imcmoto.com/products/harley-h...headset-4.html
Thanks for any input.
Charlie
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04-05-2010, 05:52 AM
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These will work with/without Half Helmet
From here...... http://www.sierra-mc.com/products.asp?cat=82&pg=2
From here...... http://www.sierra-mc.com/products.asp?cat=82&pg=2
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John,
If the Harley cable only uses 5 pins, can you make me an adapter or a cord that would be 5 pin on one side and the 7 pin on the other end. I have both the 5 pin helmet set up amd a 7 (8) Harley helmet setup too.
I would like to use one set up for both the Ultra and the Valkyrie.
If the Harley cable only uses 5 pins, can you make me an adapter or a cord that would be 5 pin on one side and the 7 pin on the other end. I have both the 5 pin helmet set up amd a 7 (8) Harley helmet setup too.
I would like to use one set up for both the Ultra and the Valkyrie.
I guess I will make up a 7pin to 5pin din patch cord and give it a try.
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Me too! I have the older Hondaline headsets in our full face and want to use the same headsets for the 04 Ultra. The jack at the helmet clamp is 5pin and no one offers a cord to go from 5pin to 7pin? Crazy. Not sure if the mic signal thing is going to be a problem.
I guess I will make up a 7pin to 5pin din patch cord and give it a try.
I guess I will make up a 7pin to 5pin din patch cord and give it a try.
I know because I used to make 5 to 7 and 7 to 5 pin conversion cables along with custom length headset cords for extra tall people. I also used the same helmet and 5 pin headset on my Yamaha Venture and my 02 Ultra.
If you want you can email me for more info.
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Your Honda headset should work on a pre 2006 Harley. Your Honda headset has a 5 pin din connector and the Jack on your bike is a 7 pin. The 5 pin connector on the Honda headset will plug into the 7 pin Harley jack. The wiring on a 5 pin and a 7 pin is the same. In other words the Honda headset wiring is the same as the Harley for the pins you will be using. The other two pins on the Harley are used for a hand microphone. This is not true for post 2005 bikes as Harley changed the microphone. Just line up the key on your Honda headset connector with the key on the bike's jack and plug it in it will only go one way and should work.
I know because I used to make 5 to 7 and 7 to 5 pin conversion cables along with custom length headset cords for extra tall people. I also used the same helmet and 5 pin headset on my Yamaha Venture and my 02 Ultra.
If you want you can email me for more info.
I know because I used to make 5 to 7 and 7 to 5 pin conversion cables along with custom length headset cords for extra tall people. I also used the same helmet and 5 pin headset on my Yamaha Venture and my 02 Ultra.
If you want you can email me for more info.
