DYNO Numbers for Baggers???
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Stock throttle body should carry 115 HP just fine. Something is off. There's no reason that build shouldn't be getting 100 hp. Did you check the cold cranking compression? A decent running 107 with head work and a good tune should make at least a HP per cubic inch. I've personally never been a fan of the thundermax. But I know they are capable of getting the job done. Can you post a dyno sheet so we can see the curves? I wonder if you are slumping or something.
Cycle Solutions, did the dyno, afterwards, the Thundermax engineer, uploaded the latest software, he tweaked it for a while, both companies stated Air was the biggest part of my issue with the upgrades, and sometime in the future I needed to get a larger TB! I'm only a rider and not an expert, but back in my gearhead days of the 70's I learned air and fuel were a big component in HP with my old American Motors AMX!
Things haven't changed with that theory!
#5052
First of all I threw away the sheet after looking at it with the numbers, should have kept it.
Cycle Solutions, did the dyno, afterwards, the Thundermax engineer, uploaded the latest software, he tweaked it for a while, both companies stated Air was the biggest part of my issue with the upgrades, and sometime in the future I needed to get a larger TB! I'm only a rider and not an expert, but back in my gearhead days of the 70's I learned air and fuel were a big component in HP with my old American Motors AMX!
Things haven't changed with that theory!
Cycle Solutions, did the dyno, afterwards, the Thundermax engineer, uploaded the latest software, he tweaked it for a while, both companies stated Air was the biggest part of my issue with the upgrades, and sometime in the future I needed to get a larger TB! I'm only a rider and not an expert, but back in my gearhead days of the 70's I learned air and fuel were a big component in HP with my old American Motors AMX!
Things haven't changed with that theory!
Timing is another big component. One good tell tale sign if an engine is lacking air is if the hp drops off in higher rpm's. If your HP doesn't continue to climb in the higher RPM's it's usually an indicator of wanting more air. I dyno tune these bikes every day. your stock throttle body will support more power than what you are seeing. You are giving up a little just because the run was done in 4th gear. You would see more if it was run in 5th. Your a/c flows decent air, your exhaust isn't restrictive if it is in fact Rinehart true duals. (I've seen shops use V&H dresser dual head pipes with Rinehart slip ins, which is a horrible combination). I've tuned plenty of builds similar to yours with stock TB and had great results. I even kept my stick 46mm TB (for awhile) when I did my 110 build on my bike and it did 116 hp and 118 trq.
Maybe the cams aren't working well with the head work. How many cc's are the heads? Take a CCP.
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#5054
2010, 107" FLHX, SE 585 cams, VH Pro Pipe HO
Here is my 107 build. Haven't much of a chance to ride it, it's been raining here.
SE MVA Heads
SE 103" Cylinders bored out to 107"
Mahle 107" Hi-Comp pistons (PART# SS082937I15)
SE 58mm Throttle Body
SE High Flow Injectors
SE 585 cams
Adjustable push rods
SE lifters
SE cam Plate & oil pump
ACR Solenoids
Vance & Hines Pro Pipe HO
Installed with a .036 head gasket
Tuned using Power Vision by Russ Fullen
Max Power @ 115.43 corrected
Max Torque @ 116.16 corrected
http://www.suburbanharley.com/Wiscon...enter--pistons
SE MVA Heads
SE 103" Cylinders bored out to 107"
Mahle 107" Hi-Comp pistons (PART# SS082937I15)
SE 58mm Throttle Body
SE High Flow Injectors
SE 585 cams
Adjustable push rods
SE lifters
SE cam Plate & oil pump
ACR Solenoids
Vance & Hines Pro Pipe HO
Installed with a .036 head gasket
Tuned using Power Vision by Russ Fullen
Max Power @ 115.43 corrected
Max Torque @ 116.16 corrected
http://www.suburbanharley.com/Wiscon...enter--pistons
Last edited by mtowner; 06-28-2015 at 07:29 PM.
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