Whine
#1
Whine
I've been hearing a whine that is most noticeable between 40-48mph, worst at about 45mph, decreasing above 50mph, and mostly inaudible below 30mph. It is speed related with gear and RPM's irrelevant to its tone or volume. There is a pulsating tone at times but not always.
I installed an E3 rear tire last April and noticed the whine after that, not before. Some Gold Wingers have complained about whine with this tire, but mostly in corners. My noise does not change at all in corners or any other time when the bike is off-axis, which leads me to believe it isn't the tire.
I checked the IDS bearing and it looks fine, although I've noticed that the belt rides flush against the outside of the pulley, at least when I've checked it with rear jacked up off the ground. The belt is not tight and I loosened it somewhat the other day without any effect on the noise. I've always run looser than spec, and now have it set to about 9/16" cold. The service guy at the HD shop didn't ride the bike but said it is definitely the belt, probably caused by an imperfection in the belt or sprocket and is nothing to be alarmed about.
It is mostly inaudible when the radio is blasting, but I just want to make sure it isn't something that indicates an imminent failure. Diagnosing is difficult while riding and I can't really tell where it is coming from. It is not the normal auto-primary-chain tensioner, which I can hear at idle mostly and is RPM related, but it sounds exactly like this whine.
Anyone run into this before? E3 owners?
I installed an E3 rear tire last April and noticed the whine after that, not before. Some Gold Wingers have complained about whine with this tire, but mostly in corners. My noise does not change at all in corners or any other time when the bike is off-axis, which leads me to believe it isn't the tire.
I checked the IDS bearing and it looks fine, although I've noticed that the belt rides flush against the outside of the pulley, at least when I've checked it with rear jacked up off the ground. The belt is not tight and I loosened it somewhat the other day without any effect on the noise. I've always run looser than spec, and now have it set to about 9/16" cold. The service guy at the HD shop didn't ride the bike but said it is definitely the belt, probably caused by an imperfection in the belt or sprocket and is nothing to be alarmed about.
It is mostly inaudible when the radio is blasting, but I just want to make sure it isn't something that indicates an imminent failure. Diagnosing is difficult while riding and I can't really tell where it is coming from. It is not the normal auto-primary-chain tensioner, which I can hear at idle mostly and is RPM related, but it sounds exactly like this whine.
Anyone run into this before? E3 owners?
#3
#4
Maybe you could try running without one saddlebag , then the other to see if the noise gets louder on a particular side.
If there is a large hill in the area , that you could maintain your speed while the engine is off and the clutch is disengaged , you might hear it more clearly.
Possibly check the wheel alignment just quickly with a string and see if there's a reason for the belt to run on the outside of the pulley.
My bike used to whine only on long sweeping left turns at 55 MPH and my wife on the back.
I figured it for belt deflection by way of the swingarm bushings being rubber and changing the belt tension.
Good luck and let us know what you find , the E3 tires look pretty neat and I will need a tire soon for my bike.
Mick
If there is a large hill in the area , that you could maintain your speed while the engine is off and the clutch is disengaged , you might hear it more clearly.
Possibly check the wheel alignment just quickly with a string and see if there's a reason for the belt to run on the outside of the pulley.
My bike used to whine only on long sweeping left turns at 55 MPH and my wife on the back.
I figured it for belt deflection by way of the swingarm bushings being rubber and changing the belt tension.
Good luck and let us know what you find , the E3 tires look pretty neat and I will need a tire soon for my bike.
Mick
#5
On a different note, it could be me whining that you hear. I've seen lovebugs already over here!!!!! Get ready!
#6
If there is a large hill in the area , that you could maintain your speed while the engine is off and the clutch is disengaged , you might hear it more clearly.
Possibly check the wheel alignment just quickly with a string and see if there's a reason for the belt to run on the outside of the pulley.
My bike used to whine only on long sweeping left turns at 55 MPH and my wife on the back. I figured it for belt deflection by way of the swingarm bushings being rubber and changing the belt tension.
Good luck and let us know what you find , the E3 tires look pretty neat and I will need a tire soon for my bike.
Good luck and let us know what you find , the E3 tires look pretty neat and I will need a tire soon for my bike.
#7
It's fixed now
I had similar symptoms on my 07 SG. I went crazy trying to isolate the noise...but it was more a low-tone "whumpwhumpwhump" sound vs. a whine. FWIW, maybe this will help.
The dealer (in all their wisdom) rolled it in...pronounced it as a warped rotor...though I told them I really doubted that. Oh well, I guess the rotor was a bit warped as well (pad was almost cooked).
I hopped on...took off and voila! same noise. Turned around...not overjoyed, needless to say. Fast forward - It was the rear wheel bearing...and the third one that month on 07' baggers they had seen with less than 5000 miles.
No problem since.
SG
The dealer (in all their wisdom) rolled it in...pronounced it as a warped rotor...though I told them I really doubted that. Oh well, I guess the rotor was a bit warped as well (pad was almost cooked).
I hopped on...took off and voila! same noise. Turned around...not overjoyed, needless to say. Fast forward - It was the rear wheel bearing...and the third one that month on 07' baggers they had seen with less than 5000 miles.
No problem since.
SG
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I and several others had the same symptoms. It turned out to be the output shaft bearing. The dealer rebuilt the tranny with all new bearings under warranty and put in a new shaft. According to them it is a "known" issue but there is no recall on it. I guess not enough have failed. Look for excessive shavings on the tranny drain plug.