Parade Mode????s
#11
04-10-2011, 08:26 PM
Here you go http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US...bmLocale=en_US (PDF file)
"EITMS is purely for rider comfort. When it activates and “shuts off” the rear cylinder, it’s not because the motor is overheating. It’s designed to reduce the heat radiating from the rear cylinder to the rider."
Last edited by ehans; 04-10-2011 at 08:30 PM.
#12
04-10-2011, 08:59 PM
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Right, but the cooling is for your benefit, not because there is any heat risk to the motor at those temps. If there was, you wouldn't be able to disable the system. HD runs these bikes in the AZ desert testing grounds at much hotter temps with low air flow.
Here you go http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US...bmLocale=en_US (PDF file)
Here you go http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US...bmLocale=en_US (PDF file)
...this dude knows his chit, and I for one, THANK him! (thanks)
#13
04-10-2011, 09:19 PM
I wouldn't worry about it. Sounds normal to me. If I am running from light to light mine will easily kick in at those temps. I can run 50 miles in the desert at 90+F though and sit idle for several minutes and it never kicks in.
Oh, and one note. EITMS is not for the bike. HD claims totally unnecessary for the safety of the motor. It is 100% for rider comfort. If it kicks in, it is trying to cool you down, not the motor.
Oh, and one note. EITMS is not for the bike. HD claims totally unnecessary for the safety of the motor. It is 100% for rider comfort. If it kicks in, it is trying to cool you down, not the motor.
While 287 degrees (the EITMS threshold for activation) will not cause any immediate catastrophic damage, prolonged operation at temperatures that high is detrimental to engine life. If the HD claim quoted above is true, I could care less - Regardless of that claim, I'd prefer my engine running much cooler.
I've installed a "parade" fan to my bike that is excellent at controlling the engine temperature during prolonged idling encountered in congested traffic conditions. Here's a link to a thread that documents how well the fan performs: https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...test-data.html
If you are really concerned about engine temps in rally type environments, or anytime you encounter congested traffic conditions, I highly recommend a fan of this nature.
#15
04-10-2011, 11:29 PM
Doesn't mean I am always comfy, but they are a definite help and would recommend them to anyone that rides more than 20 minutes at a time.
#16
04-10-2011, 11:42 PM
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You must be talking about the Engine Idle Temperature Management System. Basically, it turns off the rear cylinder and it becomes an "air pump" which helps to cool the engine.
All conditions must be met to activate EITMS:
- Engine temp more than 287 degrees
- Engine idling
- Moving under 1 MPH
- RMPs less than 1200
Once activated it'll deactivate if one of the following exist:
- Engine temp falls below 275 degrees
- Revving the engine
- Moving faster than 2 MPH
- RPMs exceed 1350
- Clutch released while its in gear
Your bike should have been delivered with EITMS disabled. To enable it:
1. Turn the ignition switch ON and push the OFF/RUN switch to the RUN position (do not start your bike).
2. Push the throttle to the roll-off position and hold.
3. After about 3 seconds, the cruise indicator lamp will either flash green (EITMS enabled) or red (EITMS disabled).
4. Repeat steps 1-3 to reverse the process as needed.
As for it running hot... yep, it's a Harley.
All conditions must be met to activate EITMS:
- Engine temp more than 287 degrees
- Engine idling
- Moving under 1 MPH
- RMPs less than 1200
Once activated it'll deactivate if one of the following exist:
- Engine temp falls below 275 degrees
- Revving the engine
- Moving faster than 2 MPH
- RPMs exceed 1350
- Clutch released while its in gear
Your bike should have been delivered with EITMS disabled. To enable it:
1. Turn the ignition switch ON and push the OFF/RUN switch to the RUN position (do not start your bike).
2. Push the throttle to the roll-off position and hold.
3. After about 3 seconds, the cruise indicator lamp will either flash green (EITMS enabled) or red (EITMS disabled).
4. Repeat steps 1-3 to reverse the process as needed.
As for it running hot... yep, it's a Harley.
#17
04-10-2011, 11:53 PM
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#19
04-11-2011, 12:03 AM
I think the only ones that has them by default are 1-2 of the EG's and the RGU, plus the CVO EG and CVO RGU.
#20
04-11-2011, 12:08 AM
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