XIED OR TUNER ? again
#13
I've been running xied's for two years now on three different touring bikes.
They work great for what they are designed to do. I've rode in all altitudes and climates. With and without catalytic convertor's in the headpipe. Never had a problem! I checked my plugs at every service interval and they showed balanced combustion. I recently traded my 2010 RK for a 2012 Triglide. I took the xied's off and put them on the Triglide with Jackpot muffler's and Arlen ness BS air filter. I left the cat headpipe on. I could tell a performance increase.
They work great for what they are designed to do. I've rode in all altitudes and climates. With and without catalytic convertor's in the headpipe. Never had a problem! I checked my plugs at every service interval and they showed balanced combustion. I recently traded my 2010 RK for a 2012 Triglide. I took the xied's off and put them on the Triglide with Jackpot muffler's and Arlen ness BS air filter. I left the cat headpipe on. I could tell a performance increase.
#14
I am gutting my cat next week on my 2011 103" RKC to cut down the heat and to help the bike breath easier. (Actually, I picked up a 103" exhaust system w/ only 400 miles on it off a '10 RG, headers through slip ons, off EBay for 150 bucks, shipped. I will be doing the changes to it and installing it to my bike.)
I have been wondering the same thing. XieD vs tuners. In particular the PCV. I, too, plan no further engine work. Just an AC and catless stock pipes. Maybe slipons at some future date. Until then... stock slipons.
I may be wrong, and some may agree with me about this, but, I just see no need for having the cat and a restrictive AC choking the engine.
So, this thread is of interest to me.
Are there other settings from a tuner that you need, will be helpful, beyond what a XeiD provides on a bike with only a Stage 1?
If I can adjust the bike with the XieD, and I expect that once done it will stay that way, I can not see the need for a tuner.
So, my .02 cents so I can be in on this tread.
I have been wondering the same thing. XieD vs tuners. In particular the PCV. I, too, plan no further engine work. Just an AC and catless stock pipes. Maybe slipons at some future date. Until then... stock slipons.
I may be wrong, and some may agree with me about this, but, I just see no need for having the cat and a restrictive AC choking the engine.
So, this thread is of interest to me.
Are there other settings from a tuner that you need, will be helpful, beyond what a XeiD provides on a bike with only a Stage 1?
If I can adjust the bike with the XieD, and I expect that once done it will stay that way, I can not see the need for a tuner.
So, my .02 cents so I can be in on this tread.
#18
this is my setup,,I have a 09 Ultra with a 96"motor, SE Fatshotz Mufflers and the New Boyesen High Flow A/C,,,I had my Dealer install SE 255 Cams in the 96" also he put the Download for the 103 SE Stage II Kit in my 96" .. The Bike ran a He!! of a lot better but ran a little warm or Hot... Then I had the Xieds instaled by American at Large Motorcycle Shop in Carrollton,KY ... This cooled the bike down and it runs Better Than it Ever Did ...All I can say is if you want to install a Cam and don't want to add the Cost of a PCV or TTS and a Dyno Tune this might be the way to go....Im Very Happy with the way my bike runs..It's smooth has lots of Power with no poping on decel....
Let me add this,, American at Large does a lot of Motor work on Harleys they also have a Dyno for Tunning ,,After they installed the Xieds the Owner took my Ultra for a test ride when he returned I asked him if a Dyno Tune would help my bike ??? His answer was ,,,,Your bike runs strong very strong,, It would be a waste of Money to Dyno your bike,, for what little more you would get, it's just not worth the cost,,, I hope this helps anyone trying to decide on Xieds or even a Cam change..
My goal was to have a good runing "TROUBLE FREE" bike FROM 0-80 MPH (it will run pass 80 easy)..And so far its working ,, It's a blast to Ride in the Hills of Kentucky!!!
Let me add this,, American at Large does a lot of Motor work on Harleys they also have a Dyno for Tunning ,,After they installed the Xieds the Owner took my Ultra for a test ride when he returned I asked him if a Dyno Tune would help my bike ??? His answer was ,,,,Your bike runs strong very strong,, It would be a waste of Money to Dyno your bike,, for what little more you would get, it's just not worth the cost,,, I hope this helps anyone trying to decide on Xieds or even a Cam change..
My goal was to have a good runing "TROUBLE FREE" bike FROM 0-80 MPH (it will run pass 80 easy)..And so far its working ,, It's a blast to Ride in the Hills of Kentucky!!!
Last edited by GEORGEW; 09-10-2011 at 09:46 PM.
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