Turn Signal Problem - Updated with new info (help Please)
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Turn Signal Problem - Updated with new info (help Please)
I know I posted this before but the title didn't get many views.
Here is the Story:
I have the Kuryakyn run turn brake module with the flashing brake lights and the Kuryakyn Bullet signal bar. I installed a LA choppers lowering kit and the tire rubbed the wires raw and everything shorted out, and blew the 15 amp light fuse.
I replaced the fuse and repaired the wiring, but I have a fast turn signal flashing. They will flash at a normal rate 5 times then they go to double time. Even if I bypass the run turn brake controller, I still get the same result.
The Kuryakyn Bullet turn signal bar re locates the plate to under the taillight and has an LED license plate light that taps into the taillights power an ground.
Everything worked fine last season. So I am going to guess that one of my winter mods could have also played apart.
Here is what I've don this winter:
10" Yaffe bagger bars, nothing had to be done with wiring.
La Choppers Lowering Kit. (I know this caused at least part of the problem)
Changed my fuel filter
Added a thumb tab to the throttle lock star bottom side of the throttle housing.
And changed my driving light bulbs to 38 watt bulbs (896) (I tried removing the bulbs with no change)
I checked the Run Turn Brake controller and load equalizer and they are plugged in and wires look good.
Could the shorting out have fried my load equalizer? I am confused because without the RTB controller I do not think need an equalizer.
Thoughts??
Here is the Story:
I have the Kuryakyn run turn brake module with the flashing brake lights and the Kuryakyn Bullet signal bar. I installed a LA choppers lowering kit and the tire rubbed the wires raw and everything shorted out, and blew the 15 amp light fuse.
I replaced the fuse and repaired the wiring, but I have a fast turn signal flashing. They will flash at a normal rate 5 times then they go to double time. Even if I bypass the run turn brake controller, I still get the same result.
The Kuryakyn Bullet turn signal bar re locates the plate to under the taillight and has an LED license plate light that taps into the taillights power an ground.
Everything worked fine last season. So I am going to guess that one of my winter mods could have also played apart.
Here is what I've don this winter:
10" Yaffe bagger bars, nothing had to be done with wiring.
La Choppers Lowering Kit. (I know this caused at least part of the problem)
Changed my fuel filter
Added a thumb tab to the throttle lock star bottom side of the throttle housing.
And changed my driving light bulbs to 38 watt bulbs (896) (I tried removing the bulbs with no change)
I checked the Run Turn Brake controller and load equalizer and they are plugged in and wires look good.
Could the shorting out have fried my load equalizer? I am confused because without the RTB controller I do not think need an equalizer.
Thoughts??
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Try this procedure, it's worked for me after I would unplug my trailer.
Purpose
Harley-Davidson wants to assure that dealers are using the
proper setup procedure for turn signal modules (TSMs) and
turn signal security modules (TSSMs). This procedure is
required because motorcycles equipped with a self-calibrating
TSM/TSSM are designed to work with a variety of turn
signal light bulbs with different current loads (domestic and
HDI bulbs have different current requirements). The procedure
outlined below allows the TSM/TSSM to measure the
turn signal current draw when all turn signal light bulbs are
operating properly. This procedure must be re-initiated after
each time the vehicle’s battery power is removed or interrupted
so that the TSM/TSSM continues to operate properly.
When a turn signal light bulb burns out, the TSM/TSSM
detects the difference in current draw and flashes the turn
signal/indicator lamp at a rate double that of normal operation,
informing the operator that a turn signal light bulb is not
operational.
Motorcycles Involved
●
All 2001-2002 models except Sportster.
●
2000 models that have been equipped with accessory
Harley-Davidson security systems listed in Table 1.
Required Dealer Action
If battery power to the motorcycle is removed or interrupted
for any reason, the following procedure must be performed to
ensure the turn signal module continues to operate properly.
This must be done before delivery of a new or repaired vehicle.
1. Reconnect battery per service manual procedures.
2. Turn the ignition switch to the IGN position.
NOTE
During the next two steps, observe the turn signals to ensure
that all bulbs are operating. If you detect a burned out turn
signal bulb, turn off the ignition switch, replace the bulb and
disconnect the battery. Then repeat this procedure beginning
with Step 1.
3. Actuate the left turn signal. Allow the turn signal bulbs to
flash at least five times.
4. Actuate the right turn signal. Allow the turn signal bulbs
to flash at least five times.
5. Turn off the ignition switch.
Purpose
Harley-Davidson wants to assure that dealers are using the
proper setup procedure for turn signal modules (TSMs) and
turn signal security modules (TSSMs). This procedure is
required because motorcycles equipped with a self-calibrating
TSM/TSSM are designed to work with a variety of turn
signal light bulbs with different current loads (domestic and
HDI bulbs have different current requirements). The procedure
outlined below allows the TSM/TSSM to measure the
turn signal current draw when all turn signal light bulbs are
operating properly. This procedure must be re-initiated after
each time the vehicle’s battery power is removed or interrupted
so that the TSM/TSSM continues to operate properly.
When a turn signal light bulb burns out, the TSM/TSSM
detects the difference in current draw and flashes the turn
signal/indicator lamp at a rate double that of normal operation,
informing the operator that a turn signal light bulb is not
operational.
Motorcycles Involved
●
All 2001-2002 models except Sportster.
●
2000 models that have been equipped with accessory
Harley-Davidson security systems listed in Table 1.
Required Dealer Action
If battery power to the motorcycle is removed or interrupted
for any reason, the following procedure must be performed to
ensure the turn signal module continues to operate properly.
This must be done before delivery of a new or repaired vehicle.
1. Reconnect battery per service manual procedures.
2. Turn the ignition switch to the IGN position.
NOTE
During the next two steps, observe the turn signals to ensure
that all bulbs are operating. If you detect a burned out turn
signal bulb, turn off the ignition switch, replace the bulb and
disconnect the battery. Then repeat this procedure beginning
with Step 1.
3. Actuate the left turn signal. Allow the turn signal bulbs to
flash at least five times.
4. Actuate the right turn signal. Allow the turn signal bulbs
to flash at least five times.
5. Turn off the ignition switch.
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Try this procedure, it's worked for me after I would unplug my trailer.
Purpose
Harley-Davidson wants to assure that dealers are using the
proper setup procedure for turn signal modules (TSMs) and
turn signal security modules (TSSMs). This procedure is
required because motorcycles equipped with a self-calibrating
TSM/TSSM are designed to work with a variety of turn
signal light bulbs with different current loads (domestic and
HDI bulbs have different current requirements). The procedure
outlined below allows the TSM/TSSM to measure the
turn signal current draw when all turn signal light bulbs are
operating properly. This procedure must be re-initiated after
each time the vehicle’s battery power is removed or interrupted
so that the TSM/TSSM continues to operate properly.
When a turn signal light bulb burns out, the TSM/TSSM
detects the difference in current draw and flashes the turn
signal/indicator lamp at a rate double that of normal operation,
informing the operator that a turn signal light bulb is not
operational.
Motorcycles Involved
●
All 2001-2002 models except Sportster.
●
2000 models that have been equipped with accessory
Harley-Davidson security systems listed in Table 1.
Required Dealer Action
If battery power to the motorcycle is removed or interrupted
for any reason, the following procedure must be performed to
ensure the turn signal module continues to operate properly.
This must be done before delivery of a new or repaired vehicle.
1. Reconnect battery per service manual procedures.
2. Turn the ignition switch to the IGN position.
NOTE
During the next two steps, observe the turn signals to ensure
that all bulbs are operating. If you detect a burned out turn
signal bulb, turn off the ignition switch, replace the bulb and
disconnect the battery. Then repeat this procedure beginning
with Step 1.
3. Actuate the left turn signal. Allow the turn signal bulbs to
flash at least five times.
4. Actuate the right turn signal. Allow the turn signal bulbs
to flash at least five times.
5. Turn off the ignition switch.
Purpose
Harley-Davidson wants to assure that dealers are using the
proper setup procedure for turn signal modules (TSMs) and
turn signal security modules (TSSMs). This procedure is
required because motorcycles equipped with a self-calibrating
TSM/TSSM are designed to work with a variety of turn
signal light bulbs with different current loads (domestic and
HDI bulbs have different current requirements). The procedure
outlined below allows the TSM/TSSM to measure the
turn signal current draw when all turn signal light bulbs are
operating properly. This procedure must be re-initiated after
each time the vehicle’s battery power is removed or interrupted
so that the TSM/TSSM continues to operate properly.
When a turn signal light bulb burns out, the TSM/TSSM
detects the difference in current draw and flashes the turn
signal/indicator lamp at a rate double that of normal operation,
informing the operator that a turn signal light bulb is not
operational.
Motorcycles Involved
●
All 2001-2002 models except Sportster.
●
2000 models that have been equipped with accessory
Harley-Davidson security systems listed in Table 1.
Required Dealer Action
If battery power to the motorcycle is removed or interrupted
for any reason, the following procedure must be performed to
ensure the turn signal module continues to operate properly.
This must be done before delivery of a new or repaired vehicle.
1. Reconnect battery per service manual procedures.
2. Turn the ignition switch to the IGN position.
NOTE
During the next two steps, observe the turn signals to ensure
that all bulbs are operating. If you detect a burned out turn
signal bulb, turn off the ignition switch, replace the bulb and
disconnect the battery. Then repeat this procedure beginning
with Step 1.
3. Actuate the left turn signal. Allow the turn signal bulbs to
flash at least five times.
4. Actuate the right turn signal. Allow the turn signal bulbs
to flash at least five times.
5. Turn off the ignition switch.
It's worth a try. I had my battery disconnected when I changed my fuel filter. The list doesn't seem to include 2006's, but I hope it does the trick.
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I did recheck the repairs, all is good there, but I am going to unplug the kury signal bar and plug the stockers and see if I still get the problem. I guess could still have a problem in there and this will verify. I do have the smart security system, can you explain about the alarm system A code?
Last edited by steelerdude1; 03-19-2012 at 10:24 AM.
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OK, here is the update. I unplugged all the kurry stuff and plugged in the stock signal bar. Still have the problem. My wire repair was the wires that plug into the taillight and go to the signal bar. So that repair is confirmed not to be the problem.
I removed the switch housings from the bars, all of the wires there look good, nothing was pinched. Since doing this, I caused myself a new problem, my throttle lock star no longer grabs the throttle and holds it open, not sure WTF I screwed up there.
I also tried the procedure that jdlogan posted, with no change.
Next, I am going to open up the fairing to look at the front signal wires, if that's not it, I am just going to have to deal with it. Man this electrical stuff is a bugger.
Any and all ideas welcome. as well as Ideas to make the throttle lock work
I removed the switch housings from the bars, all of the wires there look good, nothing was pinched. Since doing this, I caused myself a new problem, my throttle lock star no longer grabs the throttle and holds it open, not sure WTF I screwed up there.
I also tried the procedure that jdlogan posted, with no change.
Next, I am going to open up the fairing to look at the front signal wires, if that's not it, I am just going to have to deal with it. Man this electrical stuff is a bugger.
Any and all ideas welcome. as well as Ideas to make the throttle lock work
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