Good, Better, Best Heads
#11
There are several sponsors of HDF who are skilled engine tuners. I suggest you contact one of them and talk through your options. You can probably buy a package of suitable pistons, ported heads and cams, all matched to each other. Unless you plan on going racing your current heads can be reworked to give very high performance, no need to replace them.
#12
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Question is, which heads? And what is HTCC?
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HTCC = High Torque Compression Chamber and is a line of Screamin Eagle parts. If you purchase the HTCC heads, you must purchase the HTCC Pistons and you must purchase the HTCC Intake to work with the D port intake.
When I built my '03 Twin Cam I created the following spreadsheet to help me decide where I wanted to be and how much it would cost me. May be neneficial for you to try something like this....
Question is, which heads? And what is HTCC?
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HTCC = High Torque Compression Chamber and is a line of Screamin Eagle parts. If you purchase the HTCC heads, you must purchase the HTCC Pistons and you must purchase the HTCC Intake to work with the D port intake.
When I built my '03 Twin Cam I created the following spreadsheet to help me decide where I wanted to be and how much it would cost me. May be neneficial for you to try something like this....
Build
Pistons
Heads
Intake
TQ
HP
Comp
1450 Stock
Stock
Stock
Stock
70
58
8.8:1
1450Stage I
Stock
Stock
Stock
81
72
8.8:1
1450Stage II
Stock
Stock
Stock
88
74
8.8:1
1450 Stage IV HO
HC Forged - 22864-00
Perf - 16952-99B Black
95
90
10.5:1
1550 Stage I
Flat Top - 22851-99A
Stock
Stock
89
75
8.8:1
1550 Stage II
Flat Top - 22851-99A
Stock
Stock
96
81
9.4:1
1550 Stage II - Perf Hds
Flat Top - 22851-99A
Perf - 16952-99B
Stock
98
82
10.0:1
1550 Stage III
HC Cast - 22661-99A
Stock
Stock
99
82
10.25:1
1550 Stage IV (HO)
HC Forged - 22868-00
Perf - 16952-99B Black
Stock
99
94
10.5:1
1550 Stage II HTCC
HTCC Forged - 22439-00A
HTCC - 16933-99
HTCC - 29608-02
102
95
10.5:1
1550 Ported HTCC
HTCC Forged - 22439-00A
CNC Ported - 16925-02A
Stock
105
112
10.5:1
#14
#15
204 + headwork
Sort of a side-note to this thread I'd like to ask if there really is any benefit to modifying heads for the 204 cam. I thought that since this is such a "baby" gind there would be absolutely no point to touching the heads. I just installed a 204, bored to 103 and installed the heads back on with a thinner '036 gasket. Would I see any improvement with headwork, even a quick $299 job from Big Boyz?
#16
Sort of a side-note to this thread I'd like to ask if there really is any benefit to modifying heads for the 204 cam. I thought that since this is such a "baby" gind there would be absolutely no point to touching the heads. I just installed a 204, bored to 103 and installed the heads back on with a thinner '036 gasket. Would I see any improvement with headwork, even a quick $299 job from Big Boyz?
Last edited by djl; 12-14-2012 at 10:04 PM.
#17
That's an interesting idea! That would be a bolt on right?
As for why do it like this, everyone swears I will be happy with that setup. A bigger bore won't make that much difference with a good set of heads and cam . In a small block Chevy I would be inclined to agree. With the Harley I don't know.
As for why do it like this, everyone swears I will be happy with that setup. A bigger bore won't make that much difference with a good set of heads and cam . In a small block Chevy I would be inclined to agree. With the Harley I don't know.
I have a set of 07 heads if you might be interested.
#18
Thinking about cams and heads for.my 06 TC88. I think Andrews 26 cams, but I want to put new heads on to take full advantage of them. I'm leaving the bore alone for the time being, but I have cylinders available for boring later. Friends tell me I'd be happy with heads and cams.
Question is, which heads? And what is HTCC?
I'm after torque and power up to around the 4500 mark. I ride two up most of the time on a RG.
Question is, which heads? And what is HTCC?
I'm after torque and power up to around the 4500 mark. I ride two up most of the time on a RG.
You are mistaken about the bigger bore not making any difference. If you are pulling the heads, you are $300 from bored cylinders,new pistons and the cheapest torque you can buy. More cubic inches equals more displacement; the relationship is linear. If you were to bore to 95", same logic applies to the heads except chambers would be set at 80-82ccs.
Another upgrade would include a set of 1.7 ratio rockers to give the 26 cams a bit more lift which you could use if you improve the flow of the heads. You should also upgrade the inner cam bearings to Torrgington B148 and of course replace the outer cam bearings in the cam plate.
I would also suggest changing the cam tensioner shoes and replace the OEM shoes with the CYCO shoe and install the Baisley pressure relief valve spring in the cam plate.
JMHO
#19
Sort of a side-note to this thread I'd like to ask if there really is any benefit to modifying heads for the 204 cam. I thought that since this is such a "baby" gind there would be absolutely no point to touching the heads. I just installed a 204, bored to 103 and installed the heads back on with a thinner '036 gasket. Would I see any improvement with headwork, even a quick $299 job from Big Boyz?
#20