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Old 02-09-2013, 12:22 PM
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2006 Ultra, good battery (I think). At times during cranking the starter will kick out before starting the bike and cause a grinding sound. Is this the starter clutch? Has anyone had this problem and fixed it with a replacement starter clutch? Or is this a sign of a battery starting to get weak?
 
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with a weak battery, various other parts of the starting system can fail- or even be weakened, leading to damage

start with a load test of the battery- also check both ends of the cables for tightness, cleanness of connection and the condition of the cables- any "powder" coming out of the cables, means they are corroding inside the insulation.

too advanced ignition timing can also result in something like what you describe, but that is unlikely with a modern ignition system.

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The starter clutch will only rotate the pinion gear in one direction - this is so that when the engine starts it doesn't force the electric starter. Spragues within the starter clutch are devices that are designed to seize the starter shaft and force it to turn in one direction only. If they don't grab and hold the shaft cleanly, one gawd awful noise results - a screeching sound.

The starter can be removed by removing two screws and the electrical connections. The starter clutch can then be replaced. The starter clutch kit is about $150.

There is an excellent, "how-to" on this on HD Forums - do a search.
 
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The starter clutch will only rotate the pinion gear in one direction - this is so that when the engine starts it doesn't force the electric starter. Spragues within the starter clutch are devices that are designed to seize the starter shaft and force it to turn in one direction only. If they don't grab and hold the shaft cleanly, one gawd awful noise results - a screeching sound.

The starter can be removed by removing two screws and the electrical connections. The starter clutch can then be replaced. The starter clutch kit is about $150.

There is an excellent, "how-to" on this on HD Forums - do a search.

Thanks, mine is an 06 and the "how to" is for 09 and newer. Already read all the search's. I have to go into the primary
 
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The starter can be removed by removing two screws and the electrical connections.
And the outer primary cover and the jackshaft bolt...

But first do the cheap easy stuff first as mkguitar suggested.
 
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Weak battery or loose connections. The magnet solenoid is what kicks it out and holds it in. The clutch on the starter gear is actual ***** that are held down locking it to drive. When motor starts if by chance you were to hold button down and engine catches and spins up faster then gear is turning ***** ride up the ramp and the gear free wheels. Hurts nothing to do that and it is actually better to hold starter in till it is running (just a second longer then like a car) to get engine running and not get a false start. A whole lot of starts can in time burn the solenoid contacts so all you get is a click but it takes a lot to do that. I doubt a 2006 would have last problem.
 

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Update! Just finished installing an "All *****" starter clutch. This is what the problem was. Starts solid even after its hot no more kicking out during start up.
 
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great!- I hope you did the easy stuff first----consider this;

- IF the problem was a bad connection ( and if)- then the repair was in the fixing of the connection- not the new part.

this happens all the time with electrical/electronic faults- I fix 95% of problems at work by cleaning connections-


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Great choice on the All *****, I just installed an All ***** performance starter clutch on my 08 RK!! Had the same issue progressively got worse until I had free spinning starter.
 
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Originally Posted by mkguitar
great!- I hope you did the easy stuff first----consider this;

- IF the problem was a bad connection ( and if)- then the repair was in the fixing of the connection- not the new part.

this happens all the time with electrical/electronic faults- I fix 95% of problems at work by cleaning connections-


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You might be right, who knows. I did take the dremel with a small die grinder to the copper contacts in the solenoid. All other contacts looked good. The complete job took about 3 hours taking my time.
 


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