Go Back   Harley Davidson Forums > Harley Davidson Motorcycles > Touring Models
Sign in using an external account
Register Forgot Password?
Search


Touring Models Road King, Road King Custom, Road King Classic, Road Glide, Street Glide, Electra Glide, Electra Glide Classic, and Electra Glide Ultra Classic bikes.
Sponsored by: Fuel Moto USA

Reply
 
 
 
P
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 05-19-2013, 06:22 AM
Phill.t14 Phill.t14 is offline
Club Member
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Leeds, UK.
Posts: 10
Question Noisy Tappets

Hi, Can anyone tell me why my tappets on a my Road King 103 cube, 2012 model seems to have noisy tappets?
My bro has a Electra Glide 96 cube, and his engine is lovely and quiet.
I have only done 2500 miles.
My dealer has not given me a satisfactory answer,(they are all like that?)
Will a heaver oil quieten them or could they be a problem?
Cheers Phill.T
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-19-2013, 07:22 AM
electricstart electricstart is offline
Road Warrior
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,390
Default

Mine are pretty noisy too, I run mobil 1 20 w 50 synthetic and still noisy. I was told Harley switched lifters ( tappets) in 103s. Dealer told me same thing its normal. I was hoping when put new Vance and Hines on will hear exhaust instead. If and when I do cams I will go with new lifters.
__________________
2009 Fatboy
2013 Street Glide
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-19-2013, 07:23 AM
05RKCRider 05RKCRider is offline
One Of The Regulars
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Randleman, NC
Posts: 119
Default

Different engines. If you do not like your dealer find an indy that is knowledgeable & have them check it to ease your mind. What ever you do, DO NOT try to cover up the noise by going to heavier oil, additives, etc. My gear drive Woods cams & SE lifters sound like they are coming through the gas tank but it's all good & it runs great.
__________________
05 RK Classic, SE 95" cyls., forged 10.1:1 pistons & lifters, Mega-Flo SS2.11 heads, stock TB, Woods TW6HG cams, S&S gear drive & reed valve, Feuling HP oil pump, PC III/usb, Forcewinder AC, Rinehart true duals, Barnett HD clutch pack & spring. True Track, W8less metal matrix floating rotors & HHI six piston calipers, JRI rear shocks. Brightass led brakelight, HD led aux. lamps & TL phase 7 led headlight. 97.6 HP and 106.2 TQ.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-19-2013, 08:48 AM
jus2anoyu jus2anoyu is offline
Outstanding HDF Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,043
Default

I think your bike was built with the 'c' lifters, if so, they are sure to fail. If they do, the results will be nothing short of catastrophic. Your dealer will likely want you to wait until your engine grenades, as warranty isn't supposed to fix 'noisy' parts, only 'failed' parts. If you wish to circumvent your warranty, try locating a set of 'b' lifters or go aftermarket with gaterman or s&s. Woods cams are the exception to this, no amount of expense will make them quiet. They work well but the ramps are steep = more noise. You can find a lot of pictures and stories on the Web about failed 'c' lifters. Typically, the bearings in the roller come out and then the roller starts skating on the cam lobe. This scenario typically requires a complete teardown and many many parts. Good luck....
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-19-2013, 09:00 AM
aclass's Avatar
aclass aclass is offline
Road Captain
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Blue Ridge Mtns
Posts: 503
aclasshog
Default

Most, if not all the dealers are likely to tell you it's normal. If you have the extended warranty, I'd ride it! If not, I'd put S&S lifters in.

Lots of folk have lost lifters due to the rollers locking up, especially in the 110.

Good luck
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-19-2013, 09:04 AM
glock221's Avatar
glock221 glock221 is offline
Road Warrior
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Council Bluffs, IA
Posts: 1,262
Kris Maxwell
Default

I don't like what I am reading. I have a 2013 103 in my SG. I thought it was pretty noisy, and it seems to be getting noisier. (Maybe it is in my head). I probably have the C lifters also. Is there a way to know for sure besided a teardown, or do all of the new 103's have them?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-19-2013, 09:04 AM
RussH RussH is offline
One Of The Regulars
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Florida
Posts: 224
Default

My 2010 Ultra has a lifter noise also. Most noticeable at the 2000 rpm range. Seems to be ok so far and ive also been told its normal. I guess if it blows up it will give me a reason to put better cams and lifters in. Best part about a Harley is the simplicity of it.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-19-2013, 09:08 AM
jus2anoyu jus2anoyu is offline
Outstanding HDF Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,043
Default

I think they started using the Mexican made 'c' lifters in 2012. If you have excessive noise, you should replace the lifters if nothing else. 'b' lifters are getting scarce. I have almost 2 complete sets saved up. Gatermans are equally good and reasonably priced.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-19-2013, 09:30 AM
EdwardK EdwardK is offline
Road Captain
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 731
Default

Something else to consider. When I had my indy put cams in my 2013, he told me he's finding the push rods too long. It takes all the adjustment out of the lifters. I'm remembering off the top of my head so the numbers may be wrong but I think he said my push rods were 20 thou too long and that the lifters only have 30 thou of adjustment. That reduced mine to only 10. Instead of adjustables, he takes the time to open the rocker box and use the stock rods and he modified them to the correct length. This guy is extremely meticulous and would have recommended changing the lifters while he was in there if he thouhgt they wouldn't last.

Hopefully someone here is more knowledgable on that then me and can confirm or deny what I just said.
__________________
2008 Road King Classic, Pewter Pearl, Rinehart True Duals, SERT, SE Air Filter
2013 Limited, Black/Grey, SE pipes w/custom baffles and decatted head pipe, S&S 510 cams, custom direct to ecm tune, Arlen Ness Big Sucker
Traded in 2005 Nightrain, Vivid Black, V&H Big Radius, K&N Air Filter 45,000 miles for the RKC
Traded in 2011 Ultra Classic, Black/Blue, Rinehart 2 into 1, 103 with 255 cams, SERT, SE Air Filter 18,000 miles for the Limited ( long story )
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-19-2013, 10:02 AM
Tired's Avatar
Tired Tired is offline
One Of The Regulars
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Snohomish
Posts: 173
Default

Some interesting opinions and comments above. In any case, the "C" lifter quality and longevity is pretty suspect. I swapped mine out at 8K mi. and the plating was flaking off the rollers and they felt pretty rough. Installed Gaterman 1023's, adjustable pushrods, and Andrews 48 cams.

Most lifters for this application have .200" of pre-load adjustment travel available. The generally accepted practice, and what the stock design does, is set them too .100" depth, or the middle of the travel envelope. A lot of builders go deeper than that for more pre-load on the valve train, and so do I. Mine are set at .140" depth, and the valve train is much quieter than it was stock.
Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2013, 10:02 AM
 
 
 
P
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Another "noisy sportster engine" thread Rally Sportster Models 10 08-30-2014 05:17 PM
Noisy tappets ? Best Oil to use to stop this Phill.t14 Touring Models 71 08-30-2013 08:23 AM
Tyre pressures on 2011 Softtail Phill.t14 Softail Models 4 03-15-2013 07:58 AM
New member Phill.t14 New Members Area 11 10-31-2012 05:05 PM
Passing lights Phill.t14 Softail Models 9 10-26-2012 09:16 PM



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump

Join HDForums

Advertising
Featured Sponsors
Vendor Directory
Sponsors

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:26 AM.


Internet Brands, Inc.