254E SE cams over 255's. same bottom end with more top end. trust me I wished I would of done 254E's but went with 255's.

 

Best bang for the buck, for one forget the HD upgrade, go with a 107 kit & get everything from the same vendor so that it's the right combo of parts. The best parts in the world won't make a good running engine if they aren't used in the right combination. There are several good buiders already listed, Fuel Moto & T-Man have excellent reputations, & they both have geat 107 kits. Where are you located up North? Are you looking to have your HD dealer do the install & that's why you're looking at a HD kit? There are many good buiders in the upper Midwest, New England, & New York, Fuel Moto is just outside of Green Bay WI. The secret to a good running bike is a proven combo by a proven shop, find one that you like or that is close to you & discuss with them your goals & riding style & you'll end up with a winner.

 

HI Guys,
Thanks for your advise. Its not a warranty thing, I just have a lot of Harley credits that I have to spend at the dealer, that's what was driving me. Yes I'm doing it myself . After doing some more research I may want to change the cams to woods- 222. The crank run out is 5 THOUSANDS. I don't have a dyno and I would like to avoid that, Besides MY WERD CHOICES is there a better option other than a thunermax tuner. I can pick one up for 699.00 There not $1000.00 bucks anymore. The Dynos around here get $400.00 ??

Thanks in advance.

 

While waaay better than 255s, I still don't think 222s are enough cam for a 103-107. Have no idea what 5 degrees of crank runout is?? PV/TTS/SEPT all better choices than Thundermax. That $400 dyno is money well spent if the guy knows what he is doing.

 

same here. never set a dial indicator for degrees before. I think he meant the high point was at 5 degrees.

 

I have a 2008 Ultra Classic (FLHTCU) and went with the 103ci SE stage 2 kit when I bought it. It came with SE 255 cams.

I noticed the very poor gas mileage, it always seemed to run hot, and it seemed to run out of torque much above 4000 rpms. It did have very good low end torque

I have since switched to Feuling reaper 475 cams and Thundermax and it runs much better. Went from around 33 mpg (SE-255 with over 30,000 mi) to 39 mpg with the Fuelings, The engine runs cooler according to the oil temp gauge, and I have more power.

just my 2 cts

 

Very happy with my 255's and Thundermax on my 96. If I was going to do a 107 I would go with a different cam but would keep the Thundermax. I think sometimes people worry too much about numbers, HP and torque and not enough about ride ability.

 

I think 5 degrees was mistaken for 5 thousands

 

OP, I might tend to agree with Oldhippie regarding the TW-222 cams, but whether or not it's relevant to you will be based purely on where you want your power, and the build that you want.

Here's my input, and take it for whatever it's worth....

I have a 2012 RG, 103". I have stage 1, V&H power dual header, V&H H.O. slipons, TW-222 cams, and a PV. Once tuned to my satisfaction, unlike so many others that boast about huge low end torque gains, my gains are appreciable, but not overly impressive. When racing my buddy (which I very seldom do!) who has a very similar set-up, he stays right with me from 1'st gear though 3'rd. Where I really see my TW-222's show me the difference over his stock cams is about when we hit 4th gear. It's in the mid range that I walk away from him, and my bike is still making amazing power (to me) in 6th gear at 90-105 mph.

Because it's so rare that I ride at those levels (frankly, it scares the **** out of me), that's not where I really wanted my power. I don't know what's different about my set up from others with 222's that boast huge low end torque gains, if not for the High Output slipons which very well may be causing a slight loss at the low end of the torque curve. Pay attention to that variable if you do choose to stay with the TW-222's! It may be that I need a little more back pressure to see the low end gains that others notice in their bikes.

Am I happy? Yes. Did I get exactly what I was looking for? Not fully. I will keep it though. My buddies with 110' motors will not outrun me, not that I care, but it has been duly noted, and for that I am left "satisfied".

I wanted to piggyback on Oldhippie's comments though, and suggest that he might be correct. Ask a LOT of questions after you've defined what you want and where you want your power. If you think you like the TW-222's best based on what you've heard/read, then make sure that your components behind those cams best compliment them; something I could have done better.

Again, I am happy with what I have, and I am going to enjoy it for some time to come, but I did not get the neck snapping low end torque that I expected. So I am lowering my expectations for now!

It appears as if you know bikes and motors, so take my experience for what little it's worth. Good luck to you!

 

I added 255s to my stock 2013 RGU. Along with FM 2-1-2 header, slip-ons and a PV with a map from FM. Big difference in stock low end performance. No hot start issues at all.