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Old 08-26-2014, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by razorsedge
That dyno graph looks nice. The hp and tq lines intersect at 5300 RPM's, still at 100 each the bike falls right back to the RPM area of increasing torque when you shift to the next gear as the hp continues to climb. That's what I'm looking for! Thanks!

I feel like I have to watch the tach too close with the TW222 cams, if you rev past 4K and then you shift you are right back where torque starts dropping off with very little revs left to go before you need to shift again. You never get a chance to wind the bike out with the 222's, you have to shift-shift-shift-shift to stay in the peak hp/tq band. I think the 222's are for heavy touring bikes, riding 2 up and loaded down. Now if you want to pop wheelies and burn out from a dead stop and smoke the tires till 2nd gear then the 222's are the way to go. I think with 2 identical bikes with the difference is these cams the bike with the 222' will jump out ahead but the bike with the 57's will run it down and you won't have to worry about shifting so quickly. JMHO. I think the only trade off with the 57's is the fact that when you need to pass in a hurry you may have to down shift once.
>>That dyno graph looks nice. The hp and tq lines intersect at 5300 RPM's, still at 100 each the bike falls right back to the RPM area of increasing torque when you shift<<

Every dyno chart crosses at 5250. Even for cars. It's a math calculation thing. A dyno ONLY measures the power(hp) output of the engine/drivetrain (the acceleration of the roller(s)), and extrapolates the torque based on it.
 

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Originally Posted by SavageChopper
I have the 57H cams in my SG and couldn't be happier. Even two up I have plenty of power to pass in 6th gear. Cruising at 2000 RPM is nice and smooth as well. A buddy of mine has Woods 555 in his SG and we are pretty much dead even in 5th gear roll-ons and stoplight drags.
Thats what im looking for. I have the 777 and i have to be at least up to about 2700 rpm in order to make a good pass. Anything lower than that is a waste.
 
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Originally Posted by Tn.Heritage
I have the 57's and there a great cam for the 10.1 comp. that the Limited offers. The more you twist the throttle the harder she pulls. I'm running the Jackpot 2-1-2 ceramic coated pipe with RC 4" mufflers with a little more work on the baffles and tuned with a PowerVision. Bikes runs awesome period. Here's the dyno sheet if that means anything to you guys.
That boy from Tn tuned the ***** off that bike...great results! My 2012 R G got 96 hp/112 trq...after the 57 install.
 
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Thats what im looking for. I have the 777 and i have to be at least up to about 2700 rpm in order to make a good pass. Anything lower than that is a waste.
Have you considered a 30 tooth front pulley. I think it may get you where you wanna be. It should raise your rpms by about 300 and you can recalibrate the speedo with the PV.

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Originally Posted by SavageChopper
I have the 57H cams in my SG and couldn't be happier. Even two up I have plenty of power to pass in 6th gear. Cruising at 2000 RPM is nice and smooth as well. A buddy of mine has Woods 555 in his SG and we are pretty much dead even in 5th gear roll-ons and stoplight drags.
You are comparing apples to apples with the TW555 and the 57H. the Tw222 is designed to have great lowend torque. The 57 has 8 degrees more duration on intake and 12 more on the exhaust than the 222.
 
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Originally Posted by 2013_FLHTK
Have you ever ridden a bike with modified heads as well as cams? Heads make a huge difference for the rider who love to shift in the 5,000 to 6,000 RPM range.
Keep the cams,do the heads.
 
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Originally Posted by SBates08
Have you considered a 30 tooth front pulley. I think it may get you where you wanna be. It should raise your rpms by about 300 and you can recalibrate the speedo with the PV.

2010 Limited with some stuff
I have but didnt really look too much into it. Do you have more info of things like parts, part numbers, etc??
 
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I have but didnt really look too much into it. Do you have more info of things like parts, part numbers, etc??
I can get em for you.

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Originally Posted by SBates08
I can get em for you.

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I just did some research and came back with the baker 30t-07 pulley and the BDL-SPC-139-1 belt. Can get both for about $300...same as a cam swap basically. I can do cam swap myself (already did it with the 777) and re-program the PC-V....or I can do the 30T and have to pay someone to do it because I dont have the proper facilities. Hmm....decisions decisions.....
 
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The 30tooth really isn't that hard to do.

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