Your friend has something else going on and should be getting with the dealer. The triple tree stuff I was talking about is the need for service of the bearings for the triple tree every 25,000 miles.

 

I totally agree with this part of your post. The ZUMO 440 I was using on my 07 was far supperior to the 6.5 Boombox GPS. The GPS on my iPhone is better and easier to use. I too have tinkered around for hours trying to figure out how to remove the built in POI's because they get in the way when in zoom in mode.

If anyone has figured out how to delete all the POI's I'd certainly love to know how.

 

Bike is in the shop right now. Won't know anything until Tuesday.

Bill

 

Duplicate post.

 

M3, you absolutely were trying scare tactics with your post about the 25K service or, at the very least, continuing your denigration of the advancements of the 14 TriGlide. Your reasoning is suspect. Dealers are responsible to the MOCO as to what they charge for required services.


I'm not going to take the side of the MOCO against the world. What I will do is call a spade a spade. The 14's are way more than "somewhat of an improvement". They are a night and day improvement. That doesn't mean it's perfect. Don't take my word for it, though. Go ask your local Master Certified technician. I did and more than just one. Is the 14 Trike the end all? Nope, but it is the best offering by a motorcycle manufacturer on the market. Bar none. And it's a ****ing Harley Davidson. That means more to some than others. By the way your 06 Ultra? LMFAO! You really aren't holding that up as a pillar of technology are you?
But hey, it's paid for, it's yours and you like it! More power to you, my friend!

Friendly conversations like this are a good thing.

 

I agree with TwinCooled that the 14's are a significant improvement, I could not be happier with mine even in stock mode . . . the GPS still sucks though.

 

The dealer is not responsible to the MoCo for what they charge on service. I know a dealer which has earned awards from the MoCo who charges more labor hours for a tire change than what the flat rate calls for. When I ask the service manager why they charge more hours for a job which still takes the same length, he told me it was a way of getting more money without raising their hourly rate. They had to compete with local Indy's who were charging the same per hour labor rate.

The customer is unsuspecting unless they've had the service done many times and look at the time charged. A .5 hour front tire replacement doesn't all of a sudden take 1 hour on the same bike.

One thing you will learn about dealers and the MoCo is the dealer is an independently operated business who bought the franchise, the MoCo will inform you of this if you go to them with a beef about prices and standards of service.

I'm not much to waste my time with dealer technicians, sure there are good ones, but they are few and far between. The majority are wet behind the ears kids fresh out of MMI, or old timers who are better working on EVO and older bikes. Over the years I've talked to a boat load of tech's, within the 1st few sentences I can tell a good one from a turd. One of the reasons I have thousands of dollars invested in tools and equipment to work on bikes is a direct result of poor "Master Technician" workmanship. The Harley trike is the only conventional trike offered by a manufacturer, so they win by default, I don't count Can-Am as a conventional trike.

As for my 06, I didn't hold it up as a pillar of technology. For some reason it just feels more solid than the newer bikes produced over the last several years. It does what I want, I'd climb in it right now and take a 3,400 mile round trip to SD if I felt like it, and know I'd get there and back without any issues. If I wanted to hold something up as a pillar of technology, I would be holding up a completely liquid cooled engine which makes more torque and can go well in excess of 200,000 miles with not much more than normal maintenance.

There are two different kind of consumers. The kind who will be 100% loyal to a brand no matter what they do, they're the type who will purchase a life style. Then there is the consumer who makes their own life style because they don't want to be like the other sheep. They will abandon a brand in a heartbeat if the brand doesn't produce a product which meets their expectations.

I'm the 2nd type of consumer, I march to the beat of my own drum, I'm comfortable in my own shoes, I don't need to purchase a manufactured life style. I will switch brands in a heartbeat when the brand no longer fulfills my needs. I used to be a diehard Chevy person, I switched to Toyota back in 2008 because I wanted a more reliable solidly built vehicle. At the end of the day its my hard earned dollars I choose to spend it on what I perceive as the best item to get the job done for me.

We really have gotten way off topic, I though the factory GPS was what folks where talking about.

 

TwinCooled: I'm very curious, how many Tri Glides have you owned and ridden or is the 14 your first??

 

M3, I'm with you 100% in what you're saying. Although I try hard to stay American, it is getting harder all the time. It's just something I try & believe in I guess !
Off topic or not some things just need said. Thanks !
Now back to the topic.... I use a Garmin 850 in a cover. I don't believe in paying for something just to have it say Harley Davidson when it turns on.
The 850 has held up for around 20,000 miles so far. Some on other Bikes besides the Trike. Will do everything I want it to do. Plays through AUX plug, or FM radio, hooks up Bluetooth with my phone, plays MP3's, Audio books, etc... etc. If it fails I can replace it for under $200 off EBay.
But then again, I got the CB in my 2012MY. Just haven't put XM in yet, but I can do that also....... My choice to not pay for what sounds like it doesn't work.... Don't know for sure,,,, I don't own one....

 

I'm with you. I bought the Zumo 550 when it first came out years ago. I use it all the time on my trips on the bike or in the car. Very easy to use.