I was surprised to see that there were so few posts in this section. I am knew to this forum. Is ther so little intrest in blockheads?

ORIGINAL: 96flstn

I was surprised to see that there were so few posts in this section. I am knew to this forum. Is ther so little intrest in blockheads?

This particular forum just started.We have our own little place to call home;)

Sorry that there are so few block heads and shovels on the forum. It's their choice, not ours. If they are riding shovels they probably don't have time to get on the computer:D (J/K). I don't know what the excuse is for the blockheads. If you think about it though, look how many Twin Cams you see on the road compared to blocks or shovels. Face it, as far as Harley is concerned you are riding a "Classic.";)

That's right Terry,come I think March of this year my scoot will be 20yrs young.Just as perky as ever.:)

http://groups.msn.com/harleytechtalk/evo1340.msnw

It's the place to go to get a lot of EVO tech and answers. This place is really good for looking at twinkies and hearing them bitch about fuel injection, 6 speed trannies that make noise, the excessive heat from the motor, blah, blah, blah. ;)

HTT is a great site for technical answers. There's a lot of gearheads there that can answer just about any question you may have.

I think that we are a dying breed . a lot of people really like the new stuff . I like to have something i can tear down and repaint if I want and not sill owe 20,000 on it . [8D]Welcome man.

ORIGINAL: cornell

HTT is a great site for technical answers. There's a lot of gearheads there that can answer just about any question you may have.

Same here.Alot of the guys here know their stuff.

Hmmmm, My oldest g-daughter and I rode to a bike show at the "local" dealer (90 miles one way) this past summer . We didn't plan on entering or would have made it in time. We parked near the lot where it was held, and my '95 FXDWG got plenty of looks and a couple of "what is your number?" They voted by writing down bike number and put that number in ballot box. I was kinda proud that it drew so much attention......

I would love to find an old school bike to ride. Love the Ultra but would really love to have an older bike to go with the Ultra. Old kicker with a sidecar and I would be set.

As has been said, this Evo forum is pretty new. Other thing is most of us who own 'em work on 'em ourselves, and usually know what we're doing. When we get in a jam there will be questions asked here or in the specific tech section.

ORIGINAL: pococj

As has been said, this Evo forum is pretty new. Other thing is most of us who own 'em work on 'em ourselves, and usually know what we're doing. When we get in a jam there will be questions asked here or in the specific tech section.



You are exactly right. When you have owned the same bike for ten or more years there are not too many questions left. But for the new owners who just bought an Evo, fire away Bros. Of course I'm not saying there are not SOME questions I will need to ask.

I hope the appeal and interest in EVO's diminish to the point that I can buy 2 or 3 more...cheap.

I've had questions , just bought my evo earlier this year. A little differnt from the shovel I had been riding

Well, let's fire this furum up! I have this bike and I know that we are both getting older, but I think we both have a few miles left in us. I have done some wrenching on her ( I purchased a shop manual some time ago (it is grease stained, dog eared, and coming apart at the seams), and had the shop do a few mods that I felt were out of my league ( PM six piston caliper and 13 inch floating disk), but she is full of life and so am I.

i hear ya. i'll never sell the beast



http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/bigDaddy40/DCP01867.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/bigDaddy40/DCP01868.jpg

ORIGINAL: 87lowrider

That's right Terry,come I think March of this year my scoot will be 20yrs young.Just as perky as ever.:)


All a matter of perspective eh Low...I'm sure someone in their 60's is considered perky by someone in their 80's :D

Always loved evo's, evo Heritage Classic is the one that I saw that made me want a Harley...I just couldn't afford one until the 88b's.

You gonna have that scoot fixed by this spring there Low? :D

Hey, I'm with you guys, Had my 85 since new.............What would be a guess at what % of members on this site have EVO'S

I noticed that as well but there's lots of help for the older bike as well.
Seems to be less complaints - HHHmmmm I wonder why?

ORIGINAL: KenM

I noticed that as well but there's lots of help for the older bike as well.
Seems to be less complaints - HHHmmmm I wonder why?


i think we'er just more content...... with what we have. i know i am.
my old 94 aint perfect by far, but she's mine.

and best of all.............ZERO payments, and yes, she's a classic.

just like me. ..............;)

weet

Nothing wrong with classics: Elvis, Johnny Cash, Roy Orbison, Model T’s, 55 Chevy, 57 Chevy, any vette before 68, grilled cheese sandwich, Evo’s. and the list goes on and on..Some of us might be considered "classics" too...But I won't go there..


EVO 4 EVER!!!

ORIGINAL: 98kingflh

Nothing wrong with classics: Elvis, Johnny Cash, Roy Orbison, Model T’s, 55 Chevy, 57 Chevy, any vette before 68, grilled cheese sandwich, Evo’s. and the list goes on and on..Some of us might be considered "classics" too...But I won't go there..


EVO 4 EVER!!!


LOL !!! grilled cheese sandwich......................LOL !!!!

im starving for one of those !

or pepsi and peanuts, . putt the peanuts in the bottel.... yum,yum.
............


weet

Ah man buckweet, you had to go there with the baby bag of peanuts dropped into the bottle of coke trick, that was good. How about boiled peanuts, or that bottle of chocolate drink, was it the original yoo-hoo or the one that came before? Damn I feel old, I can't even remember??? Chocolate chip cookies dunked in milk, Fig Newton’s...An original chocolate shake (malts DO NOT COUNT, they are fake and an alien trick) You ever dunk your grilled cheese sandwich in a bowl of hot tomato soup??

ORIGINAL: 98kingflh

Ah man buckweet, ...You ever dunk your grilled cheese sandwich in a bowl of hot tomato soup??


yep, just about ever time ! ;-)

and ? hersheys, on a giant bowl of capt'n crunch ?
with banannas......oh, yummers !!!!

weet

ORIGINAL: 98kingflh

Ah man buckweet, you had to go there with the baby bag of peanuts dropped into the bottle of coke trick, that was good. How about boiled peanuts, or that bottle of chocolate drink, was it the original yoo-hoo or the one that came before? Damn I feel old, I can't even remember??? Chocolate chip cookies dunked in milk, Fig Newton’s...An original chocolate shake (malts DO NOT COUNT, they are fake and an alien trick) You ever dunk your grilled cheese sandwich in a bowl of hot tomato soup??

I must be a younger old, I believe you were thinking of the old Chocolate Soldier. Name probably pulled for political correctness.

I have had several bikes, including two TC's a Road King Police and a E-glide standard. At this time I'm on a 1989 Ultra classic, its is old in its own way, but the bike has been taken care of and I get told it looks like 95 or 96 only has 34,000 on the clock. I 've had bullit proof Shovels in wide glide frames and Iron head sportsters.
The ultra may not be as much of a hot rod as the TC's seemed to be but I really enjoy the ride, comfort, and reliability.

Hell I reckon I am an old timer now huh?I still have my 84 FXRS parked not 30 feet from me ,right next to the 06 glider
Remember ...every old timer you pass is just a young guy wondering "What the hell hapened?"

ORIGINAL: Sandhog

Hell I reckon I am an old timer now huh?I still have my 84 FXRS parked not 30 feet from me ,right next to the 06 glider
Remember ...every old timer you pass is just a young guy wondering "What the hell hapened?"

LOL, and sometimes this old timer looks at the new crop of young guys, and wonders, "Was I really that stupid?"

(And knows the answer is an unqualified, "YES!")

Think of this there a lot of that the BlockHead is still too new.Of course after building one, it is really just like a Shovel with aluminum cylinders,and better heads.I will be checking in now and then.

So would mine be considered an Evo classic? 89 883[8D]My first Harley(2nd street bike)just learning about them and want to learn all I can:) so far I have seen 1 sporty older than a 2000 in the sportster forum? I wanted to pay cash since I got raped for my new Honda(1st bike):(

Twisty,
Wrong Forum man. Go to Clasics-Ironhead. Buncha people with old Sportsters. I have a 1974 myself.

but I don't think I fall in that Ironhead category do I? It is an early evo? 1989? Not a Ultra or Dyna though;)

It surprises me too, that there aren't more posts about Evo-powered bikes. Even though the TCs have surpassed them in sales, there were still a ton of them sold. And, frankly, the Evo is a better engine, not being totally compromised by EPA-inspired design like the TC. It runs cooler, gets better fuel mileage, responds to hop-ups better- even in stock vs. stock competition it is nearly as fast as the current TC96! And that's an engine that's close to 20% larger in displacement!
If I ever got mine wrecked or stolen, I don't know what I'd do. If I got a new TC I know I wouldn't be happy without changing the heads, the chain drive cams, the sprocket-side crank bearing, and the EFI, which would have to be $#!+-canned in favor of a carb. And that's just to bring it in line with what an Evo already has in bone-stock form! I break into a cold sweat just thinking about it.
One other thing; Some of the aftermarket stuff I've used to replace stock parts which failed have lasted longer than the stock stuff. In effect my 120Kmi + bike is now more reliable than it was new! So I'll be keeping it.

Twisty,
No you don't have an ironhead. I was just commenting on the "1 sportster older than 2000" part of your post. I just picked up an EVO. After much thought about getting another "new to me" bike I went with a 92' Dyna. It was by far the best buy for the money I found and as MP says it aint all boogered up with EPA and fuel injection.

that's what I thought but may have missed something[8D]well hopefully my tax return is in the bank in the morning like it's suppose to be so I can make that road trip to pick her up:)

evo is ok. is the best. TC looks a litle bit like made of plastic, but for 10, 15 years they'll be classic too. This is the same situation like with shovel versus evo in 80's.
True is that in media pre TC have some kind of discrimination- don't you think so?
g.ab '95 FLH

What do you want to talk about,I'm riding my first BlockHeadand it is certainly a keeper.

Got my 86 EGlide new and she will be with me till the end. Rode my brother's 2005 Glide, it was nice, but didn't have the soul of my 86. All the places we have been, when she has gotten me home when I didn't remember how. 187000miles and going strong.

I love my '87. My son (he rides an '03 Heritage Softtail), is always trying to get me to "upgrade" to a newer, fuel injected model.
....I am resisting.....my E-Glide only has 64k on her, still going strong,....just broken in. Kinda like me, 60, and still got a few more miles left, God willing....

Keep it, once it's gone,it's gone..........You can't replace the character of a older bike like your's and mine..........These bikes are getting more special every day

Ditto on the character these old girls possess.

Here's my '87 FLHTCafter a long day in the rain.

http://asqtec.com/flhtc.jpg

Big Daddy40 bike looks darn famaliar 95 by chance and yeah I will never get rid of this one

I like what the new bikes have to offer but the old girls have soul:)

The biggest reason is because so many people are on newer models,and so few want to be bothered working on or rebuilding their older bikes.That is what I here around here.My 124" Evo is a joy to own!

ORIGINAL: Lakerat

ORIGINAL: 98kingflh

Ah man buckweet, you had to go there with the baby bag of peanuts dropped into the bottle of coke trick, that was good. How about boiled peanuts, or that bottle of chocolate drink, was it the original yoo-hoo or the one that came before? Damn I feel old, I can't even remember??? Chocolate chip cookies dunked in milk, Fig Newton’s...An original chocolate shake (malts DO NOT COUNT, they are fake and an alien trick) You ever dunk your grilled cheese sandwich in a bowl of hot tomato soup??

I must be a younger old, I believe you were thinking of the old Chocolate Soldier. Name probably pulled for political correctness.


Choclate soldier ?? Man, I have drank them all my life... You can find them at Dollar General stores.. When my eldset g-daughter was 2 yoa, she caught RSV, she couldn't eat or drink anything, nothing.... I brought home a 6-pack of Soldiers and she could down them okay...She lived off of Soldiers for at least 2 weeks....
Oh by the way, I still have a '95 FXDWG, Evo. I like it, but wish I had kept my '83 'LectraGlide....

I have had my '99 Heritage Softail since brand new... was a 36th birthday present to myself...since getting this bike I have been on many Harley-Davidson demo rides. I ride certain bikes and get off them with a uncertain feeling inside. I hop back on my Heritage and say to myself " I AM HOME" I have put down payments on new bikes, Ultras mostly.. end up thinking it through and cancelling the order. If I ever find the need to get another bike I am going hunting for something with an EVO.

ORIGINAL: HD7585

Keep it, once it's gone,it's gone..........You can't replace the character of a older bike like your's and mine..........These bikes are getting more special every day


man ! you said it !! like an idiot, i sold my 94' tour glide.........oh ! how im sick !! just sick about it !!!
[sold it to a buddy down the road] ..he keeps it in my barn,,

sooooooooo?????? yes, only thing to do is REPLACE HER !!! , looking for another EVO now,
got my eye on a few, still looking, seen a really nice 91' ultra....

whatever evo i buy next, i'll keep forever, [yes i'll put that in wrighting]

weet

ORIGINAL: Storm 4 U

Big Daddy40 bike looks darn famaliar 95 by chance and yeah I will never get rid of this one


I bought a 99 Night Train new, and just recently pickup a 97 Road King. Look s just like Big Daddy40's. Was want a 06 FLHX, but what they are getting for them just didn't make sense to me. So I started looking for another EVO, and there are plenty of them out there still. But to get a good deal takes a bit of looking and maybe a bit of traveling. I'm with the other guy that said, let them keep buying the new bikes, so I can buy anotherEVO cheap.

local://upfiles/24568/5EDAF4737D134999BEE74EB0E2408D88.jpg

I think the Evo is a great motor. Just wished HD was smart enough to use o-rings for the base cylinder gaskets. And then there's the issue with weak cases on the early '90s models.:(

MikeyB

I've had my 85 FXWG since new. It always amazes me when people crowd around it and my 04 texas chopper would hardly get any looks.

I was talking to a guy with a brand new Softail Standard the other night. He started it up to leave, and the engine didn't even move in the frame! Nothing vibrated. What's that all about? My 89 has rubber mounting, his apparently has RUB'er mounting.

ORIGINAL: 96flstn

I was surprised to see that there were so few posts in this section. I am knew to this forum. Is ther so little intrest in blockheads?


Can't say for a fact, but I think that many older bike or multiple bikeowners like me enter the forum and click the "Post Since Last Visit" and go from there.

But there is lots of evo's,shov's, pan's and even some Knuk's and flat's kicking around from time to time. Usually a good read.

chappy

ORIGINAL: ASQTec



Ditto on the character these old girls possess.

Here's my '87 FLHTCafter a long day in the rain.

http://asqtec.com/flhtc.jpg


Looks great !

Jack

ORIGINAL: uesque

I was talking to a guy with a brand new Softail Standard the other night. He started it up to leave, and the engine didn't even move in the frame! Nothing vibrated. What's that all about? My 89 has rubber mounting, his apparently has RUB'er mounting.


As I was walking to the parking lot where I work, there was the usual line of bikes sitting there with the riders getting ready, some metric , some not, most are loud, and the newer Harleys sat there as smooth at idle as the metrics; heck, I could not tell them apart. The one thing that stands out in the Harley is the old style cow bell horn. When our '90 Ultra with the evo is at idle the entire front end dances from the engine shaking, you can be several hundred yards back and spot an evo in of a crowd of new metric smooth twin cams. When we were in York Pa for the Hog rally last summer there were several times we were at a red light with dozens of bikes and you could spot the older Harleys by the way they shook - no question about it they were Harleys. The new twin cams do have the big advantage of being more metric like in quality and smoothness, but the older Harley still has the traditional Harley character that made it famous. If I were a practical person I would probably buy a new metric smooth counter balanced fuel injected twin cam with all the fancy new accessories, but I want to savor the old Harley tradition as long as I can. I do admit there are times when I can't find something I need I start to think maybe it's time to buy something new so I can walk in any dealer and get anything I want and for the most part the service HD techs will know what they are doing because they actually had training and experience with the twin cams. The again, I guess if I were really practical I would buy a Gold Wing, no I'm, not ready to be practical yet.

You know I was thinking the same thing the other day. Its kinda funny how many '06-07 threads are started here.. I've been hanging arround for a little while and have seen several days where there were no new additions to the Evo forum[&o]... I for one like the Evo, guess thats all I've had experience with, plus I prefer the looks of my '94 FXDWG over any of the new bikes. I do like the Nightster and Bob looks, but not enough to trade, maybe as a second bike for the wife though.. I'm all for progress as long as they keep the character Harley is famos for. If I wanted a metric, I'd buy one. Just like I wanted a Harley and bought one rather than a look alike.. JMO I guess because all MFG's are selling every bike they produce..

ORIGINAL: uesque

I was talking to a guy with a brand new Softail Standard the other night. He started it up to leave, and the engine didn't even move in the frame! Nothing vibrated. What's that all about? My 89 has rubber mounting, his apparently has RUB'er mounting.


its the 88B motor. B meaning balanced.
softails are not rubber mounted.

The parts availability can be challenging and If I can't fix it, it will only go to a trusted Indy, so dealer support for work is not an issue to me personally. But, all that being said, when I cruise thru all of the threads in the bagger sections and I look at all the challenges those guys have with the 88" twinkies and the 96" twinkies, I'll save my cash on buying a new one and enjoy what I have.

Last year I bought my 96 fxdl,it's the newest harley I ever had.Rides,looks and sounds great.My whole famile says- Dad,never sell it. Mat

local://upfiles/32419/5269A4FC31B44DD9B4E54E977F248906.jpg

I like my evo. I have had it for 4 years. I bought service and parts manual. Learning to do my own wrenching. I have always worked on my own cars and trucks until they became so computerized. The evo is simple compared to the new bikes. Very dependable. I just finished a 2000 mile trip on it. I will never get rid of it, even if I get the itchfor a new bike. I have posted on the forum before that the best part is not having to make monthly payments. It is all mine.

When I started my dyna project I knew exactly what I wanted to build......something classic. I would not trade this bike for anything

You can still buy Chocolate Soldier online but I'll stick to the YooHoo. And my Evo...
http://www.hdforums.com/upfiles/25378/asppg_Mk867903835.jpg

Hey all , I have one of the first softails built in 84 that I bought new . I still consider it a " new " bike ! It is a little different now than when the dealer had it ;) . I've been away from riding for a few years but got it up and running yesterday . Part of the reason I stopped riding here in Iowa is the posers and yuppies on spanky clean new bikes . They don't know where their wheels are at but they look down their nose at me because my bike was rode hard and put away wet to many times . I still believe that cover-ups and chrome don't get ya home . I like chrome just not to much of it . I see too many self proclaimed " hardcore " riders drag their feet for a quarter mile before getting them up . It makes me laugh really . I've been riding for forty years except for the last three . I've been over the high side a couple times and lived . I'd like to get to know some old timers that feel the same way . -Randy

I love seeing older bikes on the road. I'm far more likely to strike up a conversation with someone on a Shovelhead than someone on a Twinkie. I know at least one guy who didn't want to ride with me because I had such an old bike (92 FXRS).
Of course I'm not too shy about making my opinions known about the Twinkie being a cobbled-up low fuel mileage, overheating, EPA-mandated mess. Not that the Evo didn't have its weaknesses because of the motor company's cheapness. Note the past tense because I've long since corrected all the problems with mine. But what I really wonder is where all the Evos are? There are amazingly few posts here in the Evo section considering how many of them were sold.

Just yesterday I returned from two day trip,about 600 miles. Me on my 96 fxdl and my son on his 2002 gsxr. Who do you think was more tired?Mat

Hey , I don't want to come off as arrogantabout it because I've been away from riding for a long time . I've lived in rural Iowa on a farm now for years and haven't rode my 84 in three years . I haven't heard the term " Twinkie " before this forum , I don't know what a " sert " or a " map " is concerning them and I guess I don't want to . I'm looking for a panhead of any year to build . I knew when the fuel injected bikes came out that they would end up playing second fiddle to the " Metrics? " Do I really have to be that PC on here ? I still call them jap bikes . My BIL is thinking of getting another new garbage barge so I suggested he get a wing or other foreign bike . He used to have a 90 something ultra he rode year round here in Iowa through the rain , snow and ice storms . He rode that thing for years till some blind driver left turned in front of him . He wasn't hurt but it bothered him since he had two kids starting college at the time and he wanted to see them grow up more so he sold it . Now he's sixty and ready to retire . I told him there isn't any difference between the jap bikes and Harley any more other than price so get more for less and probably get a more comfortable bike to boot . I really don't know the differences anymore since I wouldn't be caught dead in a flaming " Harley boutique " shop . I haven't had any need for a "boutique " since I had to re-install my belt drive after they did it wrong twice and it tore up two belts in 100 miles then said they weren't going to stand behind it after the second one . Sorry I'm ranting now and I don't even know you guy's but like I think I said in a different part of these forums , I'm very old school and not very politically correct . I like carbs and very loud drag pipes , a front wheel that moves for and aft when idling and nothing left on the bike that can be taken off to lighten it up and I really don't like cover-up pieces made of chrome , Take off the original and have it chromed or just take it off . I hand ground , filed and polished every piece of aluminum including the lower forks on my bike in my basement over the winter a few years ago . It fogged over when you breathed on it . Just do it , don't buy it ! ...Randy

Ps : I'm not really this much of a jack--- but I was pissed when I came home from work tonight and am just letting off some steam . [/align]

I was out riding my 1988 FLHS tonight. I bought it new and I now have about 167,000 miles on her. Runs great. I did the Harley Engine Reman program at around 149K. The bike could have hit 200K but I stripped out a couple of cyclinder studs.....don't ask.

Well after the rebuild I put on a CV carb and Supertrapp 2 into 1 header to replace my old S&S and Thunderheader. The bikes runs friggin great. As long as I can keep the rest of the bike rolling, shes good for another 150K easy. Damn, I'm gonna be old by then......

I'll never get rid of her. Too manymemories and too much soul. Long live the EVO.

Hey blueglide88 , I don't think you'll get old as long as you have the bike under you . I've gotten old in the last three years . I have also bought a farm that keeps me off my bike in addition to it having a problem that hasn't fixed itself in the last three years . I spent from 7 am till 2:30 pm working on my mower-conditioner getting ready to cut hay later this week . I'm getting ready now to go out and drag the bike out of the barn again and maybe take some things off it and clean them up some and look for the parts to put the points back in and dump this new-fangled electronic ignition ( Crane Hi4 ) that I think may be the problem causing the electrical system to shut down at high rpms and run rough intermittently and stall . Might just ride it first though and deal with it . I'm gonna throw parts at it till it runs right . I'll probably re-jet the S&S just for the hell of it . See if that has anything to do with it running rough . I don't get out much anymore and when I quit riding three years ago I lost contact with the people I knew that still rode . I know some Harley riders but they are the poser types that only want to look cool on weekends . They wouldn't be caughtdead in old worn-in bug encrusted cracked and comfortable leather ( has to be the latest and most expensive from the " boutique " only )or they wear shorts while riding and do the dragging of the feet thing that crotch rocket riders are famous for at least around here . Then there's the other end of the spectrum . The ones that wear more grease than clothes . I fall somewhere in between . Except for the three year hiatus I'veriddenbikes of some sort and nationality since before I was legally able to get a drivers license . I'm beating a dead horse here . Need to work on the beast some . Wife just left to go on a trail ride with her horsey friends . Later ...Randy

187000miles and going strong. Wow that's really something!

I was out riding my 1988 FLHS tonight. I bought it new and I now have about 167,000 miles on her. really great!

I was lucky enough to get to the factory in '84 when Harley was in bad shape. I had just bought a new '84 and they welcomed us with open arms letting us go anywhere in that factory we wanted. Then we got to go out back and ride every model they had for hours on end. They called it an Open House but I bet there wasn't more than 30 people wanting to ride those bikes parked utback. Those were the first of the EVO's and the last of the Shovels, I'll always feel strongly about that day.

Check out pictures I took and scanned and posted here: http://www.hdforums.com/m_1836064/tm.htm

The first year Evolution Soft Tail
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/mjdart/Harley%20Pics/1984YorkPAMJDonnewFXST.jpg

Hey all , I took the S&S Super apart and found what may have been part of the problem of it shutting down at high rpm and the absolute reason why it didn't run good after three years sitting in the barn . I found a wad of what looked like teflon tape in the bowl and some in the idle circuit in addition to the gum and varnish that had built up and partially blocked the jets and other passages . I guess the tape was heavy enough it didn't cause any major problem until the main jet started sucking fuel fast at high rpm when it would suck it into the jet and kill the bike till the vacuum dropped letting it go to fall out of the jet again . That doesn't explain why the lights turn off at the same time though . So I still don't know what's up with that . I do know that when I got out to the hiwayafter the carb cleaning yesterday and turned onto it and nailed it when I hit second the front wheel came off the ground . So it almost runs the way it should . The electrical didn't shut down and it continued to pull all the way till ? rpm . The rev limiter is set at 9 grand till I figure out what's causing the shutdowns . Unless the ignition is bad like I suspect the rev limiter isn't the problem . Cleaning the carb was a step in the right direction . I've been noticing that the rear cylinder seems to suck back when it's idling . Ya think I may need to adjust the lifters ? It doesn't fire consistent like the front one does either . I'll try changing the plug if I still have indexing washers . I hate trying to figure out electrical problems . I have to get to the nearest custom bike shop ( NOT aboutique ! 30 miles away ) for a oil filter anyway unless I can find the one I thought I had around here . Guess I'll go ride it in the meantime . Later ...Randy[/align] [/align] [/align] PS - I tried posting a " fresh out of the barn " picture but the forum said the file was to big . How do I down size the file ? It's not a pretty bike by any means , closer to being a rat bike . But beauty is in the eye of the beholder so they say . It's been rode hard and put away wetmore times than I can count and totally neglected for the last three years . I kicked it over every couple of months but that's about it , just to keep it loose . And it takes me three or more try's to login . I say's the program performed an illegal action and shut's the window down . [/align]

An EVO combined with the FXR frame, was the best bike Harley ever built IMHO.

I had a 93 Superglide that ran perfect and fit me like a glove. I reluctantly sold her in 97 and recently started riding again after a 10 year hiatus. While I was shopping for bikes, the Dyna frame did not fit me at all and I did not want to spend $$$ for the bigger softails. I purchased a 1200 Sporty and I am really enjoying being back in the saddle.

Down the road, I hope to pick up a used FXR and rebuild it.

84FX : The rev limiter is set at 9 grand till I figure out what's causing the shutdowns


Run it up to 9 grand and you won't have to worry about it anymore...just be picking up the pieces :D

Do you still have the compliance fittings for an intake? They causeall sorts oftrouble if they are cracked.

ORIGINAL: 84FX

I wouldn't be caught dead in a flaming " Harley boutique " shop .


That made me chuckle. I was just in the Black Hills, and in the course of the trip went into three different Harley "dealers" (Minneapolis Airport, Deadwood, and Hill City) and didn't see one motorcycle for sale in any of them. I did get a nice Sturgis t-shirt in Hill City, though. If you go there, eat at the Alpine Inn, best steak in the area.

The older bikes have always interested me. I can't stop gawking at them and would dig owning one. One day...

1985 Evo Ad for Softail

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/mjdart/Harley%20Pics/1985SoftailAdside.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/mjdart/Harley%20Pics/1985SoftailAdbottom.jpg

ORIGINAL: notlost_nc

84FX : The rev limiter is set at 9 grand till I figure out what's causing the shutdowns


Run it up to 9 grand and you won't have to worry about it anymore...just be picking up the pieces :D

Do you still have the compliance fittings for an intake? They causeall sorts oftrouble if they are cracked.
No , I've got a S&S intake from many , many moons ago . Port matched and radius'd . Slight polish with an 80 grit finish to help prevent puddling . I cleaned the carb and that helped a lot . There was some what looked like teflon tape in the bowl . May have been sucking up into the main jet , I don't know , but it runs about 80-85% better now . It's still just not all there . Thanks ...Randy

I feel so dang smug I can't stand it. I have a beautiful'96 WG (20,000 miles)and a 2002 Deuce TC88i (4,500 miles.)

Antiques, I tell you. Good-for-nothing museum pieces. :)

All I have to do is visit the thread about "2007 tranny problem" which is now approaching 1,500 posts to feel good all over.

My classics are paid for, shine up great, sound and run great and I don't worry about themcoming down with a bad case of thefallaparts. I'dhappily depart cross-country on either of them.

BTW that tranny/overheating/runs-like-crap thread is here if I can post it right:

http://www.hdforums.com/m_654370/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm

Cheers to all of us who have money in our pockets and bikes to ride.

I'll second all you said JBAKER.

Hey thanks. Love that 95th Anniversary WG. Hang on to it. It's smooth and dependable and beautiful and will outrun the cars on the road.

It's all Harley and has the look, the sound and the power.

What more should a guy want?

When I bought my WG I looked at getting a new bike, it rode nice, fuel injected, 6 spd, but when I sat on that evo and rode it around, I just fell in love. I've never looked back, I hope to have it till I can't ride it anymore. I hope to add a 60's model Sporty to my duo one day.

ORIGINAL: mjdart

187000miles and going strong. Wow that's really something!

I was out riding my 1988 FLHS tonight. I bought it new and I now have about 167,000 miles on her. really great!

I was lucky enough to get to the factory in '84 when Harley was in bad shape. I had just bought a new '84 and they welcomed us with open arms letting us go anywhere in that factory we wanted. Then we got to go out back and ride every model they had for hours on end. They called it an Open House but I bet there wasn't more than 30 people wanting to ride those bikes parked utback. Those were the first of the EVO's and the last of the Shovels, I'll always feel strongly about that day.

Check out pictures I took and scanned and posted here: http://www.hdforums.com/m_1836064/tm.htm

The first year Evolution Soft Tail
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y25/mjdart/Harley%20Pics/1984YorkPAMJDonnewFXST.jpg


WOW....Those are some awsome pictures. Just reading your story and seeing those pics gave me the feeling that HD used to have back when they were really "customer orientated". They had to be, or they would have gone under. those were different days that I miss. Yoyr dresser looks good. Keep it on the road. Good Luck.

p.s.......if you have any other pics from that day.....we'd all love to see them!

I looked at your other pics you linked. Great shots. Thanks.

I just bought my first Harley which is a 1998 Dyna Lowrider so I don't know if its considered an Evo or not. I thought I read somewhere that it was and I sure don't get much response to my posts in the Dyna forum. So could some of you longtime Harley riders out there please help me get up to speed on it. I do have a few questions about it. Thanks and keep up the good post.

Well, if it's a stock '98, then it's an Evo. There's no consideration about it. '99 was the first year for the Twin Cam in Dynas. They are very different engines. For more info you should start your own thread.

It's not that there is a lack of interest,it has been a while since the last one was built.My concern is why aren't more bros.talking about big inch motors.I guess they had sooner be out wrenching and riding than posting!

I think there's still interest in them, perhaps like stated above- guys are too busy riding or getting ready to ride than sitting, staring at a monitor.

We bought our first HD, a 86 FXRS in August. I'd wanted one back in 85, but had to settle for Metrics while bills from college and family were ongoing. After 15 years away from riding, we're having a blast (wish winter would get over). Our bike was in pretty good shape but I'm pretty anal, and I've "fixed" about everything I can think of that might need done on a 22 yr old bike. Guess I'll just have to ride, now...

Nothing is 100% but i think Pococj Hit the nail on the head.
I did all the work on my bikes from the Pans, shovels and now my evo... I also think we have been seeing a differant trend in the buying of bikes... We have more people that never rode a bike or rode in there early years and now want to get back on a bike... And part of the trend i have noticed is the bike is brought to the dealer for everything from service to installing bolt-ons
but in the years to come they will be more like the shovel and evo owners they will do more themselves...

ORIGINAL: guild

Nothing is 100% but i think Pococj Hit the nail on the head.
I did all the work on my bikes from the Pans, shovels and now my evo... I also think we have been seeing a differant trend in the buying of bikes... We have more people that never rode a bike or rode in there early years and now want to get back on a bike... And part of the trend i have noticed is the bike is brought to the dealer for everything from service to installing bolt-ons
but in the years to come they will be more like the shovel and evo owners they will do more themselves...




Ditto on that............I live with in a few miles of a Harley Shop and you can just about go down there on any given day and you will see bikes waiting for service......And the parts guys say that is normal anymore. They just want to ride and not mess with dealing of tearing it down and fixing the problem........I have had my 93 Fatty torn apart 3 times and it may take a few rides to get the leaks and the misses taken care of but it is the total satifaction of "have done it myself"............I guess the thing is that if something doesn't work or look right they can blame it on someone else.........so does this mean us guys that work on our own are going along theway side? I don't think so but I run accross a lot of guys that don't even mess with it, they just want to ride.

I bought a low milage 1998 Ultra for a great price last September and I coudn't be happier. It dragged me kidding and screaming into the 21st century technology and I like it. The creature comforts are unbelieveable.Unless you have to have the latest,newest,most cutting edge of the moment,.... older bikes have alot to offer sill and I think the most bang for your buck w/ out breaking the bank for the economically imnpaired. Like me.

And while I am on a roll I hope the MOCO isn't over improving a product whose appeal could get lost under the wash of competition. In just a very few short years they went from the traditional single cam big twin to a double cam and then from an 80 to an 88 to a 96inch motor. While I like the 6 gallon tank, was the 6 speed really needed? I don't know I am asking amd had nothing more then a 4 speed shovel 80 inch and went to a 5 speed 80 inch with this recent purchase and 5 speeds seemed more then enough.

I purchased my first harley last september. A 1996 FLHTCI and I love the bike. I considered new but I wanted to do the work myself and not have to run it
to the dealer everytime. I am currently adding chrome and fixing the problems the bike had. I am learning alot from this site and the service manual.:eek:

I got no complaints with my 92 Ultra Classic Tour Glide, ride it every day (thats not storming). Heck,I like old stuff(I better especially when looking in the mirrow),going this weekend to pick a good running 74 Sporty Ironhead bored out to 1200cc from the wifes nephew for $2,000. More toys.

That's a great site. NEver saw it before. Thanks.

I cannot convince myself to buy a TC after renting one while my '96 fxsts was in the shop. I've got mild mods, carb/intake, cam, pipes and the TC I rode had carb and pipes and my evo would blow it's doors off (if it had them). Sounded a lot meaner too. Just saw a '96 softail nostalgia green/silver for sale but they were looking to break the bank 16k!!!
Is that what the Thread starter rides?? IF so get some pics, here is mine..


local://upfiles/4161/60B98D79FD0E4ABCA30EB96A58F11924.jpg

Damn 200k limit...


local://upfiles/4161/DA2A123E5A5E47168F39532669F743C9.jpg

I'll keep riding my 90 Heritage Softail for many more years. I can tell ya'll that here in my part of Texas a good looking early 90's evo Heritage Softail gets lots of attention. I'll always have lots checking mine out everywhere I go!!!

local://upfiles/48809/DFE8AE0DD8C443FDB088C9D190DD3DB5.jpg

Let's get real.

EVO's are old technology, out of date and worthless.

Can I buy yours cheap? :D

Here's my '86 and no you can't have it. :D


http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa12/JBaker421/NewSigPicPinup2.jpg

What type of saddle on your 90 heritage? Does it sit any lower then a stock saddle? thanks for info Phil

The seat is a C&C seat. Sits about 2 inches lower. I've ridden it about 2000 miles and pretty confortable. Sits you into it even more!!! Here's a couple of pics that may show it a little better.

local://upfiles/48809/33B0355ADE8045198D5F078FF53D761D.jpg

local://upfiles/48809/671D01113C4F4E318B4517BF4C4559B1.jpg

Took a few more pics this morning that shows the seat even better...

local://upfiles/48809/64A4C70E4299441FA2DCEF1F3F03BEC4.jpg

local://upfiles/48809/DD361EDF1D8D4140A77D04F45B89E50D.jpg

a couple more...

local://upfiles/48809/B4598F5FD46D419DBAF87F93346CD3EE.jpg

local://upfiles/48809/3AFFA14204F3419691C0D8E2A82A37E5.jpg

Having built my Evo chopper from the ground up in '95, I consider it my masterpiece after 30+ years as an engineering tech building other peoples designs. A recent wreck has given me the opportunity to rebuild and make some minor changes I've been considering for the last few years. I am intimate with every nut and bolt on it and can't imagine ever owning a twinky(too complex). If you think the Evo forum is sparse, check out the Knuckle forum.

local://upfiles/36103/0CC909D05CD34335AF173F2B2B6D66F5.jpg

local://upfiles/36103/7BBEF599D32449EF9888B0AA4D8AC780.jpg

I am new to this forum and as others have posted, I agree that the "classic" EVO's are reliable and comfortable. I think the key word is comfortable. We have had the bikes for a while and know all the little quirks they tend to have. By now all the infant issues have been worked out and unless there is a catastrophic failure we will keep rolling on them.

My EVO is a 1994 FLHSTC. She just came of a rebuild, lower end and gaskets and is running like a champ (gave her a new spedo to reflect the second life). The interesting thing is that every time I get to a HD shop I have people looking at her and the salesmen attempting to sell me a "new and improved" model. I think not; no payments and besides that, would you get rid of a good old chum?



local://upfiles/57228/E1BDA544826942929A0C59EBA26601C9.jpg

local://upfiles/57228/8D3E6A1A3468465AA9CAC87AD636C60A.jpg

The thing is, most all the "twinkie" owners are either new riders or old riders getting back into it. They are here to find people like them to hang out with, chat or toss ideas around with (usually for approval). That and there are just a buttload more "twinkies" out there now.

The EVO guys already have friends to hang out and talk tech with.

I have a 1999 Fatboy that I bought 4 years ago. It's the last EVO. At first I regretted not going with at least a 2000 "twinkie", but after owning and riding this bike for the past 4 years I never look back. Whoever said it is right, the EVOs have soul. I have ridden with others and seen a lot of "twinkies" and there's just something about them that I can't get into. Maybe it's all the extra wiring and fuel injection. Maybe they just don't seem to have the same feel...the nostalgic feel. I'm not sure, but I'll be keeping my EVO.

Don't get me wrong, I've seen some nice "twinkies" and I'm sure they're good bikes, but something is missing. I can't put my finger on it.

heck I had a 99 Fatboy that got stolen then I bought a 04 duece. Missed my evo so much I sold the duece and bought a 98 Fatboy.

I have a 2000 Road KingTC and a 93 FXRS-SP EVO. I would rather ride the FXR any day of the week.
To me a EVO has a better sound than a TC,I am not talking decibels here the evo's just have a distinct sound.
The newer bikes sound more like a metric bike at idle (blame the EPA here) and the heat generated by the TC is unbearable ridding in town during the hot summer.
The TC does have improvements in engine design but the cam chain is not one of them.
EVO in a FXR frame isthe best Harley has ever made.




local://upfiles/11986/AAF256F15775475E975A719AFEA2A36D.jpg

[&o]Sadly, there is some truth to this statement... unless a veteran enthusiast stops to yak with you. Then it gets interesting:)

Yea, I have a twinkie, but love 'em all. I'm one of the ones you won't hear b1tchin about noises and EFI woes.[&:]

EVO softail is still my favorite bike, (1984-mid 90's)

~Joe

its true whilst the TC forums are full of post its mostly noise. I have tried asking a few more techie questions about diferences bewteen the set up of a evo dyan and the latest ones and got a a resounding silence. Most of the posts are basic stuff we are learned when we first started riding . Yeha i have ha da couple of twin cams but I am now back on a evo dyna and loving every mile.

Been riding 34 years now, have owned 12 Harley-Davidson's since the beginning, bought my 88 Tourglide new in 88 and 65k later we still rumble on....have never touched the motor.....have never had to...most reliable, comfortable motorcycle I've ever owned....she keeps on cranking!!...EVO's Rule!!!

ORIGINAL: HENTER

Been riding 34 years now, have owned 12 Harley-Davidson's since the beginning, bought my 88 Tourglide new in 88 and 65k later we still rumble on....have never touched the motor.....have never had to...most reliable, comfortable motorcycle I've ever owned....she keeps on cranking!!...EVO's Rule!!!


Welcome.
Post a picture of that 88 Tour Glide

I bought a used 1998 Ultra w/ 2184 miles 7 months ago. I researched the motor and the bike as best as possible and other then the EFI the EVO motor and that particular year being its last run was given thumps up and Aces across the board. Something about the EFI system not being as good as the new more improved one?

I sold my 1963 Pan and traded in the 1996 Buell S2T to get it. Kept the 1983 FL. It was worth it. No regrets. The hardtail pan is for the more youthful rider. Buell was too. And I love that Ultra. The technology is a little over whelming and I am taking it slow. Cruise, CB,casette,intercom (got two helmets from J&MCorp w/ intercoms in them).

Reasons...I been riding all my life. I want the creature comforts that come with getting older. Also I look at the older generation riders that I know andsome are no longer here (not because of natural causes either) because they wouldn't acknowledge there dwindling and less youthful skills. At 52 the pan and the Buell no longer complimented my physical capabilities. Bad knees, big stomach etc...

I have owned my 98 FLHR since new and due to living away for many years (in Kazakhstan) I took her off the deck, covered her in S100 and got dad to crank it on a monthly basis. She only has 8k miles on her.

although the weather has been bad this year (hey this is Britain) I find myself sneeking out "to test the motor" or "...do you want some chocolate my dear?" and I'm loving it more than at any time in my life.

Strange thing is, whilst at the HD dealer's the other day, the salesman says to me "...why are you buying more parts for that old Evo of yours, time to trade up to a twin cam mate" Let me see, I have a bike I love, that works well, has utterly TIMELESS styling, why would I want to?

Jap bikes are wonderful and I will never say a word against them, but, it does make me laugh when the guys at work talk about the new 2008 model having 3hp more and more aerodynamic plastic. I nod my head, are we getting like that???

Neil
p.s I hit the big four-oh a couple of weeks ago and told the blonde one that I wanted another bike, she says, "What are you going to do with your AJS and your Harley then?"

"...no darling, I said another bike"

ORIGINAL: 87lowrider


ORIGINAL: cornell

HTT is a great site for technical answers. There's a lot of gearheads there that can answer just about any question you may have.

Same here.Alot of the guys here know their stuff.


YA got that right, Lowrider![sm=exactly.gif]

ORIGINAL: Neil Ivanovich

I have owned my 98 FLHR since new and due to living away for many years (in Kazakhstan) I took her off the deck, covered her in S100 and got dad to crank it on a monthly basis. She only has 8k miles on her.

although the weather has been bad this year (hey this is Britain) I find myself sneeking out "to test the motor" or "...do you want some chocolate my dear?" and I'm loving it more than at any time in my life.

Strange thing is, whilst at the HD dealer's the other day, the salesman says to me "...why are you buying more parts for that old Evo of yours, time to trade up to a twin cam mate" Let me see, I have a bike I love, that works well, has utterly TIMELESS styling, why would I want to?

Jap bikes are wonderful and I will never say a word against them, but, it does make me laugh when the guys at work talk about the new 2008 model having 3hp more and more aerodynamic plastic. I nod my head, are we getting like that???

Neil
p.s I hit the big four-oh a couple of weeks ago and told the blonde one that I wanted another bike, she says, "What are you going to do with your AJS and your Harley then?"

"...no darling, I said another bike"




what AJS do you have ? My first road bike and funnyily enough bike project was a CSR 14 My dad bought home in 2 tea chests and a frame. :)

There are some Harley dealerships that won't even touch a bike with the Evo Motor. They have forgotten where they came from and expect everyone to buy a new bike every year. Bellingham HD in Washington is one of the shops that won't work on Evo's. They are too arrogant for their own good. I am glad that I know the Evo like the back of my hand.

+1 Having built my Evo chopper from the ground up, I know every nut and bolt by their first name. Wouldn't have it any other way!
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk205/mwaggoner_01/marksbike2-1.jpg

I'm a little confused,
I own an 86 Sportster 883.(Wifies bike) The first year for the Evo on Sporties. I dont see anyone with one of these in this forum. No Sportsters at all really. So is it that Sportsters can never be called Classic Evo's? I have noticed that the sportster forum is mostly for newer sporties.
I also do my own wrenching. Cant trust anyone else to do it. Last mech I had touch one of my bikes forgot to bolt on the front fender all the way after doing a fork seal replacement. Bolts let go and the fender ended up dragging on the tire while going down the highway. It was hanging on by a single bolt, BARELY. I can only imagine what would have happened if that fender dug into the tire while doin 50+.
So are the sportie crowd welcome in this particular section?

Oh an by the way, the wifies bike does sound better than the 2008 EFI driven 1200C I own.

local://upfiles/47452/AB21BFCC33B64DF38B94E128F1260FFA.jpg

Your sporty is an EVO right, you and every other Evo sporty guy is more than welcome. Not sure why more haven't jumped into this forum.

simple even tho "we" might see you bike as an evo....80% of the blinkered big twin riders just see a sporty. We have a sporty and a dyna in our household and soon hope to add another couple of sporty/buell based chops to the herd as well. When you think about it tho the sporty engine has remained unchanged under the covers since 86 only difference in the new ones is the rubber mounts for the engineand the primary cover really.

ORIGINAL: BlackAngus

There are some Harley dealerships that won't even touch a bike with the Evo Motor. They have forgotten where they came from and expect everyone to buy a new bike every year. Bellingham HD in Washington is one of the shops that won't work on Evo's. They are too arrogant for their own good. I am glad that I know the Evo like the back of my hand.


I'm from BC Canada and have been to the Bellingham Harley dealer several times in the past few years. I haven't had to have them do any work on my 89 flhs, but they,ve been very helpful and courteous. If you want a real arrogant shop, Try Kanes HD in Kelowna B.C.

Thanks! Glad I am welcome here. I prefer to chat with the real wrenchers rather than the bolt on crowd. Wrenchin is just a given when you own older bikes.
I bought the Fix My Hog DVD's for the Sportster. Says it covers all the Evo series. I guess I will find out.
I also own two Metric's that I also do my own wrenching on. Good to know there is a place I can come to for advice.

Glad to see some posts in the "Evo" section. I do my own wrenching too, and would only allow my Dad to touch my bike as well (since he is the original builder, plus he knows what the hell he's doing).

Its funny I remember when you use to see the "older" guys wearing Hear no evo,see no evo,speak no evo shirts

ORIGINAL: steelhorse 1971

Its funny I remember when you use to see the "older" guys wearing Hear no evo,see no evo,speak no evo shirts


They still do :D

well it always foes come donw to the those that do and those that don't when talking bikes. The those that don't tend to be found hanging around the dealers looking at each other latest bit of harley bling. Those that do are out riding or round each tohers workshop discusing the latets project thats on the bench being built out of the bike the former lot sold when it ran out of warantee, got to love the guys that buy the latets bikes......gives us something to buy in a few years time :)

ORIGINAL: Ribcracker

well it always foes come donw to the those that do and those that don't when talking bikes. The those that don't tend to be found hanging around the dealers looking at each other latest bit of harley bling. Those that do are out riding or round each tohers workshop discusing the latets project thats on the bench being built out of the bike the former lot sold when it ran out of warantee, got to love the guys that buy the latets bikes......gives us something to buy in a few years time :)


Nicely said... :D

yea well......... I looked at a forum and tried to get some assistance there and it wasn't happening. I like it here myself. And you're right ... I hadto unsubscribe to a lot of the sections here because I was bombarded with emails where somebody had a "store bought motorsickle" changed the pipes - spent a lot of money on accessories, couildn't figure out the right computer program to make it workand fussed about how it didn't run right. And/or bitched about having their bike dyno-tuned and wondered why it got bad fuel mileage.

Really, there's some pretty cool people here! [sm=smiley20.gif]

bye bye off somehwere people know how to scroll up and down and side to side cant have pictures streching threads and hiding the adverts now can we.

What did that last post mean? Sounded angry.

ORIGINAL: hottrocker

What did that last post mean?Â* Sounded angry.


I think he dipped his toe in the water and it wasn't the right temp for him!;)

Huh, this thread has been going since Nov 30, 2006. And most of us who were in it back then are still probably riding the same bike.

I never thought I'd end up with an Evo. (I don't think I'll ever end up with a Twinkie, but I reckon I oughtta know better than to say "never".) I was looking for another Shovel and had found one I wanted, but the deal never happened. Looked at the ad for a 1987 Evo Softail Heritage and the price was reasonable. That was the start, Dec 2000. Coming up on 8 years soon enough.

Funny how the forums have changed since I first dropped in here. Some things are better; some not. Got burned out doing the moderator thing, so I'm now an "indy, LOL. Too much drama and I surely can get enough of that with my in-laws! Way more "look at this bolt-on piece of chrome thing I'm having the dealer install" crap in most of the forums. The oil stuff is all recycled (sorry, couldn't resist), the same questions get asked and answered over and over and over and over ... Nature of the beast, I reckon.

Meantime, I'm taking way too long revamping my scoot. Started posting the project in the (ta-da!) projects forum but got zero comments. Not looking for praise, but sometimes a dude will ask something and get you thinking in a completely new direction. Dropped in on a couple other forums, but there are very few with appreciable Evo info, and even less "I done it my way" stuff.

Well, I'm glad y'all are still here, plugging away, and keeping what may be "The Last of the Real Harleys" alive. Yeah, it's just my opinion, but I believe the Twinkies and the new rubber-mount Sportsters are the first of the "use 'em and lose 'em" Harleys. Too many things done for ease of manufacturing that can limit or make it too expensive to rebuild 'em over a lifetime. Such is progress, I reckon. Don't misunderstand me, there are many great things about the latest models. It's just that some (not all) of the changes are going to have long term ramifications that we won't understand for 20 years. But then I probably won't be around in another 20 years. :D

Meantime I'll ride and rebuild a certain 1987 Evo Sloptail, and plan my pre-rubber-but-still-Evo-Sportster-in-a-late-'70s-FL-sized-frame bagger!

ORIGINAL: steelhorse 1971

Its funny I remember when you use to see the "older" guys wearing Hear no evo,see no evo,speak no evo shirts


It's funny that "they" should say that when it was the evo that was HD's saving grace and most successful engine,
and did more for reviving their dying company than did any other motor.

Your bigger motors are still built of the evolution design too.
If it wouldn't have been for the"evo" HD wouldbehistorical memoribillia.

New to the Forum. Just picked up a 85 EVO FXEF Superglide. It's my 1st Harley andit's a great ride. Keep up the postings, especially on the older bikes.

Jim

New to the forums and new to the HD world. I've been a car guy all my life and had wanted a Harley for about as long, unfortunately lifes things had a habit of getting in the way of me aquiring a bike. So, finally I did, picked up an '88 Heritage Softail for what a believe was a steal. I had been riding my pals 2002 Fatboy since he was busy with work and couldn't ride. What a thrill it was when I rode the '88 as compared to the '02. Don't get me wrong the Fatboy was smooth as silk and there in lies the issue. I come from the old school dayswhen tuning a car did NOT involve a computer...and we all stood around listening the car that just pulled up with solid lifters, the big ass camand wiping the tears from your eyes because of the amount of octane booster it had in the fuel. The best way I can say it is, the '88 has character and life, the '02 umm its a nice bike. One other important thing. The guys that are riding the new bikes for some reason tend to be a bunch of a-holes, I know I'm generalizing and there are probably a few good ones out there butI never got that from the guys riding the older bikes, they have always been willing to listen, help and if I'm lucky, I'll get a killer story out of them.
So, With all that being said, I thought that this was the best place for my first post. I suppose I'll post something in the intro section...or not.

Thanks,
Pepi

Pepi,
Welcome to the Geritol side of the joint! And there's even another set of rooms where the wheelchair, walker, and cane-dudes hang - Shovel, Pan, Knuck, Flattie, Ironhead types.

You're dead on about older bikes, character, and life. For me (and this is strictly my opinion, and reflects my tastes and likes) the rubber mounted, counterbalanced, fuel injected, etc. bikes lack something almost indefinable. Even THE MAMA's Nightster, about as basic an HD as you can get nowadays, is just a little too easy to ride. But in the long run, just riding whatever floats your boat is a "good thing."

I've always been one for older anything...well almost everything.
I'm on my 4th scoot since '72, third Harley.
I just donated my 88 heavily modified Sportster to my son-in-law, and am proud to have contributed to his mental health.
I just bought my second EVO, 96 Electra Glide Classic, that only needed my tender loving care.
I actually loved the Sportster, and miss it now, but am getting used to the bagger. I guess as I get older, I appreciate the smoother ride of the bigger bikes.
I've had the 96 for a couple of months and have touched just about every nut and bolt with my own hands...wouldn't have it any other way. Can't bring myself to pay someone else to do what I can do myself, and then know what was done and how it was done.
Glad to find this section....I was getting tired of reading about all of the EFI maps and SERTS and stuff...has no meaning to me.

ORIGINAL: garryb54

I've always been one for older anything...well almost everything.
I'm on my 4th scoot since '72, third Harley.
I just donated my 88 heavily modified Sportster to my son-in-law, and am proud to have contributed to his mental health.
I just bought my second EVO, 96 Electra Glide Classic, that only needed my tender loving care.
I actually loved the Sportster, and miss it now, but am getting used to the bagger. I guess as I get older, I appreciate the smoother ride of the bigger bikes.
I've had the 96 for a couple of months and have touched just about every nut and bolt with my own hands...wouldn't have it any other way. Can't bring myself to pay someone else to do what I can do myself, and then know what was done and how it was done.
Glad to find this section....I was getting tired of reading about all of the EFI maps and SERTS and stuff...has no meaning to me.


&nbsp\\;
Amen

I've only owned two Harleys. A&nbsp\\;really tricked out 79 Shovel, and my current 07' Deluxe. I totally missed the whole Block head thing. ( KIDS, HOUSE, WIFE, ETC.)&nbsp\\;I do however consider them to be one fine motor, and the savior of the MOCO. Thanks AMF![8D]

ORIGINAL: DeJavu


ORIGINAL: hottrocker

What did that last post mean?&nbsp\\; Sounded angry.


I think he dipped his toe in the water and it wasn't the right temp for him!;)


&nbsp\\;
nope still around just don't post got burned out on twinkie owners are their new bolt on bits and being moaned at about picture sizes from my photobucket site.

Hey everyone. I signed up about a week ago, but just found this corner of the forum. I was about to loose interest in the site, but now I think I might hang around a bit.
&nbsp\\;
My first bike was an '80 Iron Head (worn out) chopper that I pushed more than I rode. It became a down payment on my first home in 2000. In '03 I convinced my still naive bride that we could afford a 100th anniversary Heritage which was true for a few months until Jr came along. I have no idea how hard it&nbsp\\;(TC)&nbsp\\;is to work on or not as I wasn't about to touch it. The thought of&nbsp\\;possibly&nbsp\\;screwing up a bike that I was going to be paying on for a long time didn't appeal to me. I'm probably not alone in that train of thought which might give another reason for the busy service departments.
&nbsp\\;
After the TC I rode a Vic for a while, but I'd just rather not talk about that. lol. Then two years ago I had an opportunity to buy&nbsp\\;my dad's '96 Fat Boy. I can truly say that this is the best bike I've had. Hands down. The EVO has a hell of a lot more kick than that TC did. To be honest, I originally bought it from dad because I couldn't afford a new bike and wanted to get back to a&nbsp\\;Harley. It didn't take long&nbsp\\;though to realize that even if I got a windfall I'd still ride this bike. I would do a few things to it, but I'll never get rid of it.
&nbsp\\;
There is one thing that I think is humorous about this thread. The same attitude from the shops and TC riders today is the same attitude that I ran into from the shops and EVO riders in the mid-nineties when I pulled up on my Iron Head and dripped oil all over the parking lot.
&nbsp\\;
By the way, does anyone know where I can get a primary drian plug? I just serviced it this past weekend and noticed that the magnet was&nbsp\\;chipping apart. I broke the rest off for now, but I want to replace it with another magnetized plug. I've looked at several of the aftermarket parts websites, but with no luck. I'd rather not have to go to the "boutique" for it if I don't have to.
&nbsp\\;
Thanks
Phillip

welcome to the naughty corner :) Not sure on sources for your drain plug, aint going to cost much from the stealer anyways, I tend to find if someone doesnt make a patern part for something oe on a bike the origanl one is cheap anyways. The real thing you need to think about is why the plug is getting damaged. I would have the primary cover off and have a good look at the primary drive chain.

Yeah, I plan on pulling it apart as soon as I get a clutch spring compressor. I've got a leak behind the inner primary, so I'll take a look when I do that. It was sitting in the garage for a few months with a bad rocker box leak that I just fixed. I was working too much for a while to get to it. I know that the media says that we're on the verge of a depression, but construction in the South is booming. We have to turn work down. For us the problem isn't lack of work, but lack of workers. At some point it became unfashionable in America to work hard for your money. Hey, maybe that's another reason people don't want to work on their scoots.... it's too hard. Ok, I'm getting off of my soap box now.
&nbsp\\;

Nice thread, Gentlemen!
I think Evo's are here to stay. Look at all those big dogs, S&amp\\;\\\\\\;S and other "cloned" stuff. I don't see them start basing all that on TC in the nearest future. Evo is the best building playground, IMHO.
I'm new to harleys, even though I've been riding for 20 yrs, even though I'm a relatively young dude :)
So, I could have easily afforded TC, but after a fair amount of research I decided to go with an evo which needs rebuild, since I wanted to build a hog from the ground up, the way I want it.

TC's are more on the side of being a direct competition against metrics. While they may succeed, the niche will be taken by factory rebuilt Evos and clones. So, I think it becomes a different story now, and we are not comparing apple and apple anymore.
If you want a worry-free ride, with perhaps jap quality, plus the name and the legend - you go TC
If you want more of a real soul and spirit rather than just a legend, and you want your playground for truly yours and unique bike - you go evo.

I'm happy I didn't get TC - all the money I saved on that, I'm spending on whatever-I-can-think-of upgrades for the evo&nbsp\\;\\\\\\;:D

How reliable is an 1986 FXWG in reasonable good condition and mostly stock?
I know a car that old would be shot.
I like the character of old bikes and the kick start too.
I'm considering getting one for short trips of less than 50 miles.
I don't want to be riding the thing&nbsp\\;if it falls apart.
Should I get something newer instead?

I bought my 92 springer in Jan 2000. It was kept in a shed by the previous owner and had only 8000 miles. He had back problems and couldn't ride anymore. It has 65K+ miles on it now.&nbsp\\;My friend that owns an indy shop still remembers the first day I rode up and how awful it looked then. It was down for a little over 2 years but is now up and running strong as ever. I'm gonna keep it forever.

hi ya'll,
I'm new to the forum so I decided to jump in on this old but popular thread.&nbsp\\; To me rid'in a bike must be different than it is to some of the newer riders.&nbsp\\; I feel like a big part of rid'in is the connection you form with your ride.&nbsp\\; Over the past 14 years my old softail has left me on the side of the road a few times, mostly battery or charging problems.&nbsp\\; Its not fun being stuck on the side of the road, but its all part of the connection.&nbsp\\; When I hear guys talk'in about trading their old twin cam in on a newer shinier model it just makes me cringe.&nbsp\\;&nbsp\\;Ain't anybody sentimental anymore, what about all those miles and memories with your old bike.&nbsp\\; I may be the only one that feels this way, but if i am, i'm happy feeling this way.&nbsp\\; I remember when all the old pan and shovel riders use to give us a hard time.&nbsp\\; This one old guy about 12 years ago on an old generator shovel called us evo-sexuals.&nbsp\\; I didn't care much for that old fart!