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junky bike - 3/29/2007 3:11:10 AM   
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sorry i know this will make some of you old timers mad but i think the pan is a piece of junk. a friend of my boyfriends has one and it takes a dozen kicks to get it started and its not to reliable mechanically. hes always working on it and having to buy new parts. another guy who had one the engine blew up like a bomb while he was riding one day, the rear piston sticking through the crankcase. totaled. i think hd ended production on those old bikes for a good reason. out with the old in with the new. ok you can wash my mouth out now
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RE: junky bike - 3/29/2007 8:43:41 AM   
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Well opinions are what this web site is all about. I can tell you I have been riding my pan for 36 years and it has never left me stranded. Does it require routine maintenance....yes; can it be a bugger to start when the temp is below 30....hell yes; would I ever give it up for a twinkie motor...no way.

You reference two bikes that were problems. Sounds like a couple of women I have known in the last 60 years. Even with all the grief I wouldn't trade them or the experience for anything. Been as far east as Kentucky on her. The trip strated out from Kalif going a little bit south and then a bit east before I sobered and realized I had a very long trip home ahead of me.

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RE: junky bike - 3/29/2007 9:10:39 AM   
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Dragon,

I know you are a young thing, and you are just getting into HD.. Congrats on the new ride.  The bikes you are talking about were around when your daddy was just a gleam in HIS daddy's eye.  These bikes are VERY old, and as such, take a little extra care, and yes, the parts are old... and they will break.  Look at how many years they lasted, and the cycles (strokes in cyclinder) that piston went through before it busted.  Look at the care it takes to keep antique cars running.  These are NO different, except a bike may see more abuse over it's lifetime.

Now.. take a deep breath.. and look at a lot of the posts on here.  How many do you see about NEW bikes having problems.  Technology has only created more things to break and leave you stranded on the side of the road.  We take what we have, and make it into what we want.

Appreciate and respect the old.. that's what got us to where we are today.


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RE: junky bike - 3/29/2007 2:29:34 PM   
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there you go thinking again

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RE: junky bike - 3/29/2007 2:50:50 PM   
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Dragon,

Please don't take my previos post as a bashing.  it wasn't intended that way. 

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RE: junky bike - 3/29/2007 7:31:17 PM   
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hes always working on it


It has been my experience that this is the number one problem with HD reliability. Because they are easy to work on does not always mean that just anybody should do so.

Another thing to consider, Panheads have already been around  between 40 and nearly 60 years, and an amazingly large number of them still run fine and are daily riders. I seriously doubt that very many of todays electromagical wonders will last that long.


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RE: junky bike - 3/29/2007 7:41:50 PM   
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i understand. my car is a 69 camaro. was my dads before he elt me have it. it runs good most of the time but does have its problems. but in another way i dont understand. guess im just not old enough to appreciate nastaglia. i wouldnt choose an old vehicle. if i could have anything i wanted it would be a new corvette, a jessie james custom chopper and a couple new harleys. hey one can dream cant they

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RE: junky bike - 1/25/2008 10:31:59 AM   
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like a good woman,older h-d needs lots of love and attention.had mine for 37 years and still going.being 44 years,you just can not go to town and buy a part for them.you either fabricate or beg.and most h-d serviceman has never seen a panhead,must less know how to fix them.

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RE: junky bike - 1/27/2008 4:28:53 AM   
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Sounds like the evil manifold leak and a valve froze. You need to pressure check those intake manifolds and stay on top of the preventative maint. Other than that there are many still on the road today including mine, but not at the moment. Here is a great place to learn all you need to know about old iron http://www.hydra-glide.net/.

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RE: junky bike - 1/28/2008 8:25:53 PM   
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Dragon,

A Gold Wing rider at work thinks all Harley's are junk.  Yes, you can get better performance at a lower cost, so why didn't you purchase the Japanese bike?  (GWs are US made).

Like anything else the old bikes need regular maintenance and just because you work on bikes doesn't mean you are Panhead qualified.  I've seen, heard of, and purchased a "fresh rebuild" than needed immediate attention.  If it isn't done correctly, it doesn't really matter how new or old it is, it will break.

My ride will be 50 this year, so I'm thinking of taking it on an IBA saddle sore 1000 this summer.  I'm in the LA area and you are welcome.

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RE: junky bike - 1/30/2008 1:48:24 PM   
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Alot of those older bikes went thru H3ll during their time.Parts were once hard to get,the aftermarket wasnt like it is today.Some owners shouldve never laid a wrench to them.Yet many of these machines are still around today and still run very well with alittle care.Set up properly one kickers are very common,draw crowds wherever they come to rest and those owners would never let one go.My pan runs very well,starts very easy and is seldom a headache.They require going thru evrey once in awhile or diasters can happen.   

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RE: junky bike - 2/2/2008 11:20:03 PM   
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Well, I'm glad you made it a point to distinguish between me and the "old timers".    THANX, I'm not offended at all. Just chucklin'. And I'm only 55.  Yes, Ma'am, panheads can be cantankerous, just like a woman. And they can go to the dickens, when you least expect it, just like a woman. They can be hard to get going, just like a woman. They can be hard to stop, just like a woman. They leak, just, uhhh, never mind.  All that said, I still have a panhead, and I still have a woman. Hard to envision life without either one. Is it work? No more than keepin' a woman 'round.   Is it fun? Just like havin' a woman 'round.  Geez, just a couple of things in common, huh? Glad you got the Camaro, and you already know what pretty much all have said. It's classy, fun, partially, if not wholly, wore out in places, and needs TLC to keep it running decent. No more, No less. Not only that, but you made your point rather decently, and I think everyone was pretty decent in return. Sorry to hear 'bout the problems you have seen with pans, but should they decide to part with them, you know where you can find me.   And I have no problem finding my "relic" in a sea of bikes, it's the one in the middle of the crowd.    

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RE: junky bike - 2/24/2008 7:38:25 PM   
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i had my distributor set so i could retard it when starting then push forward for
running , started 1st ,2nd kick always. but the rest of the motor was sound any harley
especially old needs a feel developed before starting it with ease. 

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RE: junky bike - 3/2/2008 2:40:28 PM   
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My favorite girl she has been resting for a few years. all new except dist. and oil pump.  The pump is going to go as I can not stop the crank case from filling with oil on long layovers.  The second photo is good advice to a girl who does not like panheads to much time with nothing to do.


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RE: junky bike - 3/2/2008 8:52:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dragonfiregirl

i understand. my car is a 69 camaro. was my dads before he elt me have it. it runs good most of the time but does have its problems. but in another way i dont understand. guess im just not old enough to appreciate nastaglia. i wouldnt choose an old vehicle. if i could have anything i wanted it would be a new corvette, a jessie james custom chopper and a couple new harleys. hey one can dream cant they

LOL, can't talk about reliability and WCC in the same sentence! 


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