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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/23/2007 6:09:34 PM
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I customized my 2006 for touring. Is this what your are looking for?
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/23/2007 6:50:00 PM
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I think the picture has been posted here before. This is a Screamin' Eagle owned by a guy that's over at www.myvrodsite.com who goes by usturbine. The site is kind of slow right now but then again even this site was slow in the beginning.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 5/1/2007 5:35:34 AM
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I think the V-Rods are way cool. I came off a Kawasaki Ninja ZX-7R, and was very close to picking up a used V-Rod since there were many to choose from here in SoCal, but I got a great deal on an 04 FatBoy that I just couldn't pass up. Dont get me wrong, I love the fatty, but in the back of my mind, I want to own a V-Rod, especially now that they have a bigger gas tank and the 240 rear is standard.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 5/1/2007 8:35:57 AM
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If I ever replace the old girl with something new it's going to be a V-rod, or a Ducati.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 5/4/2007 9:25:14 AM
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Hello, first post over here so here goes, I never understood the V-Rod bashing from the start  I been riding Harleys for a quarter century now, does that make me an ole guy  yeah i guess so, but I'm young in sprit and I like the V-Rod myself. I could see me buying one once my Road Glides paid off would most likely be a used one to save some skin. I'd love to see Harley bump the size up and do a touring rig with the shark nose fairing like the aftermarket kit did it's sharp IMHO! I don't know as much about the motor as I will soon. but did the Moco design it so that it could be increased in size by them pretty easily? Any way you V-Rodders have more friend's and admirer's in the Road Glide group than you know ( we get a lot of CRAP to ) I guess we like the different stuff too, I mean look at our rides  There's always going be someone bitching about something diff. from the Moco like the V-Rod or Roady, so when they do. just ask them what is it about your tail light they don't like! 
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 5/4/2007 11:09:26 AM
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Nice RG you have there. Rented one last summer. Sweet. Ride a RK here as well. The V-R complements it well. Different horses.
The defensiveness I see from some big twin owners towards the V-R is just that imo. Defensiveness. A need to feel better about their current ride by using words. Some call it insecurity. Those confident and assured feel no need to look down on other's bikes or other kinds of bikes, recognizing all bikes are fantastic nowadays, and we're all different with varying interests, roads, and riding styles.
FWIW, see this kind of attitude across all makes. BMW R1150GS owners looking down on the R1200GS, or Ducati 999 owners doing the same to the 1098. You have Honda Valkryrie owners not able to stand the VTX, and so forth. Then there's class warfare with cruising riders who can't stand sportbikes, and vice versa. Guess it is human nature. Impresses some, but I can see through it .
BTW, the 1130CC Revolution engine has all kinds of potential and future power capabilities built into it. That at 1130cc it can hang with (If not still outperform) bigger displacement engines from other power cruiser makes let's many know this engine is just toying with the competition. Read once there's all kinds of big and bigger bore opportunities with the engine when H-D decides to go down that path. At this time a bump to 1250cc is the factory option.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 5/4/2007 6:20:21 PM
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Exactly what I have been saying. The Vrod is a superior design competing with bikes 300-600cc's larger in displacement. If you are going to compare which motorcompany has the best design, to need to compare them by their displacements. To be fair and objective, you cant compare a 1130cc bike to a 1800cc or 2300cc bike (Even though they are getting spanked by a bike with the second smallest engine Harley makes after the 883). Imagine a 1800cc vrod being compared to the Honda VTX1800. Which bike would be faster? quote:
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Nice RG you have there. Rented one last summer. Sweet. Ride a RK here as well. The V-R complements it well. Different horses.
The defensiveness I see from some big twin owners towards the V-R is just that imo. Defensiveness. A need to feel better about their current ride by using words. Some call it insecurity. Those confident and assured feel no need to look down on other's bikes or other kinds of bikes, recognizing all bikes are fantastic nowadays, and we're all different with varying interests, roads, and riding styles.
FWIW, see this kind of attitude across all makes. BMW R1150GS owners looking down on the R1200GS, or Ducati 999 owners doing the same to the 1098. You have Honda Valkryrie owners not able to stand the VTX, and so forth. Then there's class warfare with cruising riders who can't stand sportbikes, and vice versa. Guess it is human nature. Impresses some, but I can see through it .
BTW, the 1130CC Revolution engine has all kinds of potential and future power capabilities built into it. That at 1130cc it can hang with (If not still outperform) bigger displacement engines from other power cruiser makes let's many know this engine is just toying with the competition. Read once there's all kinds of big and bigger bore opportunities with the engine when H-D decides to go down that path. At this time a bump to 1250cc is the factory option.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/18/2007 1:42:12 PM
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You mean to tell me that in another thread you are calling V-Rod riders gay and in this one you are now saying that you want to ride one? Someone doesn't take the bait and doesn't argue with you and now you want to play cool?
Come on dude, troll somewhere else. We don't have time to play with kids.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/18/2007 9:17:53 PM
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Of course V-Rods are legit, any way you choose to define legit! I don't think they are so much about performance as they are about refinement though.
Maybe says something about the buyer too. I mean, you don't see many V-Rod owners trying to build low speed torquers out them, (by flushing money down the toilet) like how so many big twin owners try to turn their classic low-rpm mills into top end screamers.
I have a 04 Buell XB12S that's pretty crude in comparison, but still a lot less so (and faster) than most maxed out big twins with optimistically huge cams and other mis-matched engine components.
Confession: I've never ridden one, but hear it's like having your cake and eating it too.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/19/2007 7:00:32 AM
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I hear it's like having your cake and eating it too.
Oh, it is.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/20/2007 9:24:37 AM
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I like the looks of the night rod special, but it confirms the fact harley is influenced by the metric companies. It is styled in looks right after the very popular yamaha midnight warrior even down to the paint rings on the wheels. 
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/21/2007 3:44:58 AM
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/22/2007 10:08:52 PM
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To my way of thinking a HARLEY has to be be 1.An air cooled pushrod motor,for ease of maintenance 2.You should be able to see the the heritage in the bike you are looking at. I have got no problem with modern advances,my softail is fuel injected for instance,but the v-rod is a complete departure from the history of the H.D.motorcycle.When you buy a Les Paul Gibson guitar today, it is still a Les Paul Gibson guitar,not a re-hashed or completely re-designed instrument,and thats what makes it a Les Paul Gibson.Put different pickups in it,change the neck shape,put better tuning keys on it and some people might prefer to play it? But its not a Gibson anymore!I have owned just about every brand of motorcycle in my riding life and enjoyed them all in their own way.When I was 16 or so I always knew I would end up buying a HARLEY one day,I am now 45 and love my softy, and my opinion of what a harley is will never change.I think a lot of people buying HARLEYS today wouldn't have a clue or care about the history of the company, but have the money to buy one and thats all that matters to them,just a status symbol!HARLEY knows this and has cashed in on it. Soon we will have HARLEYS that sound like an old fart,handle like a japa and stop just as well.The masses will be excited and pleased,so will the marque,but in each case, something special is being lost and forgotten.I would buy a bike like the V-ROD,great looking bike! I just wouldn't buy one with the H.D. brand stamped on it. Call me set in my ways,small minded,stuborn,stupid or any other name you can think of and I will consider them all compliments.Its a shame that owning a H.D.to a lot of people is nothing more than a fashion statement! Got that off my mind,gotta go for a ride!
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/24/2007 9:37:45 PM
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I just wouldn't buy one with the H.D. brand stamped on it.
And I wouldn't care if the V-Rod said "Strawberry Shortcake Bike" on the side, I'd still own one. (But I'd have to repaint it) It is still a single-pinned V-twin, a design that Harley isn't departing from and a lot of foreign bike manufacturers are trying to develop.
Volvo makes cars and semis, two totally different vehicles, they're all still Volvos. Love it or hate it, the VRSCs still say "Harley-Davidson" on the side--that's what they are.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/25/2007 11:56:19 PM
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To my way of thinking a HARLEY has to be be 1.An air cooled pushrod motor,for ease of maintenance 2.You should be able to see the the heritage in the bike you are looking at. I have got no problem with modern advances,my softail is fuel injected for instance,but the v-rod is a complete departure from the history of the H.D.motorcycle.When you buy a Les Paul Gibson guitar today, it is still a Les Paul Gibson guitar,not a re-hashed or completely re-designed instrument,and thats what makes it a Les Paul Gibson.Put different pickups in it,change the neck shape,put better tuning keys on it and some people might prefer to play it? But its not a Gibson anymore!I have owned just about every brand of motorcycle in my riding life and enjoyed them all in their own way.When I was 16 or so I always knew I would end up buying a HARLEY one day,I am now 45 and love my softy, and my opinion of what a harley is will never change.I think a lot of people buying HARLEYS today wouldn't have a clue or care about the history of the company, but have the money to buy one and thats all that matters to them,just a status symbol!HARLEY knows this and has cashed in on it. Soon we will have HARLEYS that sound like an old fart,handle like a japa and stop just as well.The masses will be excited and pleased,so will the marque,but in each case, something special is being lost and forgotten.I would buy a bike like the V-ROD,great looking bike! I just wouldn't buy one with the H.D. brand stamped on it. Call me set in my ways,small minded,stuborn,stupid or any other name you can think of and I will consider them all compliments.Its a shame that owning a H.D.to a lot of people is nothing more than a fashion statement! Got that off my mind,gotta go for a ride!
So if you ride a v-rod you ride for fashion ??? And we don't care about history ? Pete this bike is history . It is a lot of firsts by H-D. It is a bike that people who wanted performance for the money wanted. It showed that H-D could build a bike that Japan didn't until recently. The v-rod has brought thousands of new riders to H-D ,and the MoCo knows it. News flash :most people who ride V-rods never would of bought a Push rod . BTW you can't compare buying bikes to buying a Les Paul ,thats just wrong
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/27/2007 3:33:32 AM
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Hey triple buzz,I dont believe I said If you ride a V-ROD you ride for fashion? I just believe a HARLEY should always be what it has built Its reputation on. Like I said earlier,advances in technology are a must but not a complete change in direction.I dont argue the company has made something a bit special with the V-ROD but in my mind it will never be a HARLEY! Not trying to upset anyone but it's my opinion.If I can't compare GIBSON guitars,maybe I can compare bikes? DUCATI has constantly improved Its bikes,but hasn't changed what a DUCATI is? A HARLEY is not a DUCATI and a DUCATI is not a HARLEY. To me by changing the direction of what they have done for the last 100 years,HARLEY have circummed to the mighty dollar rather than believing in their own heritage.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/27/2007 7:02:00 AM
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With this type of attitude its a wonder that Ford ever made anything but the Model T.....
That's one hellova point. You wil always have "Traditionalist" that insist that we all ride panheads at the worst but to be a "REAL" Harley rider you need to still be on a kicker with no oil filter because the oil drains on the ground. Guess the Softail, Dyna, Touring, and Sportster lines are all crap too.
Good Point 1peter, I see the errs of my way.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/27/2007 2:05:08 PM
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Hey triple buzz,I dont believe I said If you ride a V-ROD you ride for fashion? I just believe a HARLEY should always be what it has built Its reputation on. Like I said earlier,advances in technology are a must but not a complete change in direction.I dont argue the company has made something a bit special with the V-ROD but in my mind it will never be a HARLEY! Not trying to upset anyone but it's my opinion.If I can't compare GIBSON guitars,maybe I can compare bikes? DUCATI has constantly improved Its bikes,but hasn't changed what a DUCATI is? A HARLEY is not a DUCATI and a DUCATI is not a HARLEY. To me by changing the direction of what they have done for the last 100 years,HARLEY have circummed to the mighty dollar rather than believing in their own heritage.
Can't use Ducati either.The purists say the new 1098 is not of the red blood of Italy. Not because of its looks, power , weight or style, its the mainstream bargin price of $14k that has them pissed off. It's letting new people buy Duck's. Sounds like your point with HD .Pete your opinion is totally welcomed . NO one in VRSC world is going to be pissed . We are very use to people who can't handle change.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/27/2007 2:25:13 PM
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NO one in VRSC world is going to be pissed . We are very use to people who can't handle change.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/28/2007 12:07:28 AM
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I must be reading my own thread differently to you guys,I didn't think I said I have a problem with change? I did think my DUCATI comparison held up though,I wonder what DUC fans would do if DUCATI started making cruisers? Not that I care,I like HARLEYS.Hey "easy" SOFTAILS,DYNA"S etc, are not a complete departure from H.D's styling, just changes that H.D. made from Ideas mostly created by people that owned them.eg-a softail used to be called a rigid,thats change and I'm ok with it! Anyway I cant argue anymore I'm getting a pain behind my right eye.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/28/2007 1:22:28 AM
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Peter, Your points are interesting ... as for Ducati making cruisers... What about the fact that they now make Supermotards....
I have a Ductati and i really dont care what they make so long as i am happy with what i have .
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/28/2007 1:38:37 AM
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Yeah I know what you mean MC88 but these companys built their reputations on slowly and gradually improving a good idea,just seems a shame to go ass about face now?
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/28/2007 7:23:14 PM
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Yeah I know what you mean MC88 but these companys built their reputations on slowly and gradually improving a good idea,just seems a shame to go ass about face now?
pete the reputation was built long before the v-rod or your softail . Companys change ,H-d, BMW ,Triumph ,Duc have all changed to offer more bikes. Is it about money ? sure is . Without growth a company will become stagnent. Just look at BMW ,8 new models of bikes in 2 years. They needed to do this to get non baby boomers to buy there stuff. Same with the others. John Bloor from triumph saved that company by offering every type of bike he could . Not by selling 650 bonnies to aging Boomers. Kawi sold a bonnie before they did ! These companys also offered lower priced units in the same model line to bring in more buyers, So did Harley, there is a bare bone model of every line Harley makes (like your Standard Pete ) So people could more easily get a piece of the life style . NO company today could stay afloat with a what has worked for years motief .
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/28/2007 8:24:59 PM
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I did a Poker Run with my local HOG Chapter last weekend. Mine was the only V-Rod at the event, even though the owner of the sponsoring dealer says it's the best bike Harley ever built and rides an ultra-customized one himself.
As the other HOG members told me when I was riding a Sportster 883: Hey, as long as it says Harley-Davidson on the side...
A lot of riders asked me how I liked it and what that thing was (radiator!) on the front.
My most common reply: Scary fast with amazing brakes.
And I love it, although it did take some getting used to cruising around town in 1st gear!
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/29/2007 12:02:50 AM
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Tripple buzz,I know HARLEYS rep was built long before the V-ROD and my softail,thats my point,and TRIUMPH had already gone under long before john bloor fired things up again?I never said that what H.D.have done with the V-ROD is a bad buisness venture,although only a lot more time will tell? I do think however,that H.D.would easily survive, by continuing to improve and develop the foundation they already have,without changing it completely,thats innovation isn't it? Anyway I give up,I keep getting misquoted and misunderstood,so I'm going off to sulk!
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 6/29/2007 12:51:44 AM
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Tripple buzz,I know HARLEYS rep was built long before the V-ROD and my softail,thats my point,and TRIUMPH had already gone under long before john bloor fired things up again?I never said that what H.D.have done with the V-ROD is a bad buisness venture,although only a lot more time will tell? I do think however,that H.D.would easily survive, by continuing to improve and develop the foundation they already have,without changing it completely,thats innovation isn't it? Anyway I give up,I keep getting misquoted and misunderstood,so I'm going off to sulk!
Pete I'm not sure what you are sayinig then. In your post you say MoCo is going ass backwards .But you reply that thats not what your saying. Dude what are you saying ???? The only thing I am getting from any of your posts is your a consumer who is happy with the way things are , and that you would have not brought more riders into the MoCo because you feel its fine the way it is and it can surive without and changes. thats fine , you have the | | |
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