V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake...
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V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/3/2007 1:44:47 AM
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tireater
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Since the V rod never caught on in Cali...what do you think? Older harley riders will NEVER accept this bike....! Get over it or wait for respect ...?
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/3/2007 2:04:32 AM
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sfarson
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Sure are a lot of California V-Rod riders at 1130cc.com.
The H-D model with the longest wait times to buy is the hot Night Rod Special.
A report I saw (Pre-Night Rod) had the VRSCA model alone as the 6th best selling Harley out of 28 or so models. Your comment is like saying the Dyna Wide Glide is a big mistake.
Overseas, the V-Rod is just what the dealers wanted and needed. Some years, it is the #1 selling H-D internationally. There's less enthusiasm over there for the legacy air-cooled big twin. To be sure, overseas is where H-D's future growth is. The market is saturated with air-cooled big twins here.
Don't believe there are many who give a crap whether an old rider accepts it or not. If anyone owns and rides for that reason they are riding for the wrong reason.
2/3's of V-Rod owners are new to the H-D family. This is a significant number. It means new $$$ from buyers who probably wouldn't have bought a H-D. Businesses eagerly seek new growth versus just trading $$$ with people already loyal.
Of course the VRSC is a legit Harley. Just another branch of the family tree, like most motorcycle manufacturers have. This branch is big and getting bigger every passing year. Many descendents will come forth over time.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/3/2007 2:47:06 AM
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Thanks for legit reply...GOTTA ADMIT - I go for the flat black one - gave one a good look recently -I just don't know why I don't see more on the road... I'M TRYING TO OPEN MY MIND - guess I should find one and take a ride....and i'll talk to a rider next time I see one...
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/3/2007 9:35:29 AM
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You mean to tell me that in another thread you are calling V-Rod riders gay and in this one you are now saying that you want to ride one? Someone doesn't take the bait and doesn't argue with you and now you want to play cool?
Come on dude, troll somewhere else. We don't have time to play with kids.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/3/2007 10:45:05 AM
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never mind
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/3/2007 5:28:01 PM
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Why not buy a Buell or a big jap v twin with min. maint.
I think harley missed the mark or I would see more of them - lots of low mile used ones for sale here...
I like to ride all kinds of bikes - but that don't matter here - it's beers and checking out bikes on Sun - no one sees you ride...
Is there something wrong with a v rods seat - you guys always seem to have your panties in a bunch...
I GOTTA BE FAIR TO GAYS - NEVER SEEN ONE RIDE A V ROD (lots of girl or girl Sporty action here...) lighten up!
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/3/2007 5:28:40 PM
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I know for a fact as a young first time Harley owner I probably wouldnt have bought a Harley until I was alot older had it not been for the Vrod. I do like the Fat Boy but a Vrod is where it is for the younger Harley owner. How can you call any Harley owner gay. The name alone screams true biker (one who loves to ride). Yeah you need to pack your bags and move to another forum with a question like that. Dont go out and ride one, just get left behind.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/3/2007 5:40:02 PM
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SORRY ABOUT HOW THIS THREAD WENT - I WILL STAY OFF THE V ROD FORUM - BUT I DO THINK IT IS A LEGIT QUESTION - WE TALK ABOUT IT OFTEN - BUT OF MOST OF THE PEOPLE I HANG WITH HAVE MORE THAN 20 YEARS OF RIDING HARLEYS AND NO ONE LIKES THEM....
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/3/2007 5:53:28 PM
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I'll take the time to answer your question/comments seriously. Tread lightly cause your comments are starting to get irritating and starting to look like you are just trolling. Trolls don't seem to last long around here.
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Why not buy a Buell or a big jap v twin with min. maint.
Cause you'd have to ride on your nuts (crotch-rocket) to go any faster. Before you make your next comment, no one ever said that the VRSC was the fastest bike made, but it definitely holds contention for the top honors for a cruiser. Any other bike with the same contention needs a bigger engine to do that.
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I think harley missed the mark or I would see more of them - lots of low mile used ones for sale here...
I like to ride all kinds of bikes - but that don't matter here - it's beers and checking out bikes on Sun - no one sees you ride...
It is hard for any company to change their look, style and design of 99 years of being air-cooled. It is likewise just as hard for someone that has been devoted to the image of Harley-Davidson to do the same thing.
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Is there something wrong with a v rods seat - you guys always seem to have your panties in a bunch...
I GOTTA BE FAIR TO GAYS - NEVER SEEN ONE RIDE A V ROD (lots of girl or girl Sporty action here...) lighten up!
You'd be a little defensive as well if someone pushed their way into your territory and started making the comments that you have---
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NO DIFFERENCE - YA STILL GOTTA PARK IN THE FEMENINE HYGENE SECTION....neither bike is very popular around here.....
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U remind me of an a** clown I tossed out of the bar 2 Sundays back - no wait - he had a real harley - tossing a guy out with a v rod would be gay bashing - not tolerated around here - SELL UM CHEAP HERE....! good luck - hope it works for u...try lube...!
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/3/2007 7:27:11 PM
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The v-rod is the best harley made. **ck the traditionalist, just a bunch of old cogars. Gotta change with the times people..
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/3/2007 7:36:56 PM
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Like I said - sorry about posting on your your V rod area - I thought it was in "off topic area" - are most Jap vtwins cruisers made for small people?
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/3/2007 8:13:00 PM
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Like I said - sorry about posting on your your V rod area - I thought it was in "off topic area" - are most Jap vtwins cruisers made for small people?
Assuming a legit question, cruisers from Japan are for riders of all kinds of sizes. Some of their offerings are immense, bigger than anything H-D offers, like the Vulcan 2000, VTX 1800, etc. and etc. It isn't uncommon for magazine reviews to ding these big bikes for their size. Suzuki's V-Rod competitor the M109 routinely faces criticism for its portly dimensions.
I ride all kinds of bikes... from sport to dual-sport-to-cruising, and when it comes to cruising, H-D delivers the goods for me, riding a Road King and a V-Rod. If you ride with others who can't appreciate all things two wheeled, then I feel sorry for them. It is their loss, and it usually reflects a defensiveness and insecurity about what they ride. Those confident don't feel any need to look down their long noses at the discretionary choices others make.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/4/2007 10:46:22 AM
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I would caution tireater about questions that are obviously trouble making. May be he didn't mean it, but he seems to be poking that stick at the subject over and over.
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The V-Rod is the best harley made. **ck the traditionalist, just a bunch of old cogars. Gotta change with the times people..
I take offense to being call a cogar for preferring by Air cooled to the V-Rod, Shadow, Vulcan or other liquid cooled bikes. I've always given due respent to V-Rods and none of my group lowers them selves to belittle what another person rides. And so far the wet motors aren't getting better fuel economy so the times haven't changed enough for me to care. The '07 96" Roadglide gets mid 40's mpg.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/4/2007 11:07:12 AM
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I meant to post this off topic so we could talk about the whole air cooled - water cooled thing. I would like to know more about them -but I really don't see many and they don't hang out with us O.G.'s.
As far as size - forever jap bikes have been made for smaller people (gold wing) have they started making them for larger people yet?
Most people I know would would rather buy a used bike insted of going water cooled - we talk about this stuff....
Our bike night guys invite and ride with anyone - no v rods yet. A guy with a FJ1300 planned and led the last 3 day trip. Another with a Kaw. bagger leads many rides with his harley jacket....VIVA LA DIFFERENCE !
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/5/2007 11:45:35 AM
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I'm probably as "old school" as anyone around, having owned and worked on Harley's since the early 1970's.
In fact, my first "new Harley" was a '72 FX 1200 SuperGlide, and I currently own a Panhead, Shovelhead, EVO, and a couple of TC's.
That being said I'd love to have a V-Rod as a member of the herd, and if I see one at a good price that will probably happen sooner than later...
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/7/2007 1:19:59 PM
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Just received my new VRSCAW Patriot (Marine Corps) have had it a couple of weeks and I love the bike. I had not ridin in 9 years after my previous bike was stolen (not a HD) At 40 it was time to return to what I love and that was riding bikes howver, this time I wanted something more personal and decided it was HD time.
IMHO all th ebullshit about age and new vs. old etc. etc. is just bull. Being an individual is what it is all about buy what you want and ride th ebike you want all the other isssues involved are a waste of time.
Pictures of my new VROD will be posted tomorrow.
welcome back . your statement is well put.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/8/2007 3:43:35 AM
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Although I am part of the younger generation of Harley riders, I was a hard core traditionalist in which the thought of fuel injection and water cooling on a Harley made me sick. I thought the V-Rod was ugly and a waste of money when it first came out. I eventually changed my attitude after riding one. Now in addition to my old school Ironhead I have a 2006 VRSCA and love it.
You have to accept the VROD for what it is and not what you think it should be. When you can do that it wont matter if you are a tradionalist or not. You will see an awesome bike.
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/8/2007 9:38:16 AM
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Any business that refuses to change will be left behind in this every changing world. The VRSC is a move in the right direction for Harley. They can only live on the legacy of the air-cooled V-twin for so long. Sooner or later it is going to be passed for the faster, lighter, cooler running, and higher HP of the future unless they do some drastic changes. I love my Electra-Glide with the 88, and it will always have a place in my garage, but the VRSCDX is the sh1t. I have ridden just about every kind of bike I can think of at least once and the only bike I remember feeling like my DX makes me feel is the Duc 999. If you are questioning the popularity of H2O cooled V-twins just visit some of your local Jap dealers; M109R, smaller Boulevard line, VTX's, Kaw's. Any objective person cannot deny that this setup is very popular, the biggest reason I think the VRSC lags a little behind the import bikes is lack of knowledge, higher price tag, and the elitist attitude that many HD fans have towards their liquid breathing little brother. Come on guys lets all get along, if you don't like the VRSC line DON"T RIDE IT. Every time I hear a naysayer doubting the VRSC it makes me laugh a little, it is so obvious that they feel so threatened by it that they insist on beating it down. Seems to me like too many people are worried too much about image and not doing what we really love; riding. Once again, it is not what you ride, it is that you ride. I love the traditional Harleys as much as the next guy, but they cannot deliver the smiles per mile that my DX can. Tireater I think you need to do a little research on the V-rod and find out about it roots, and if you truely are a bike guy like you claim you cannot help but to admire the brilliant technology that went into this bike. I don't post much, usually just lurk, but I am tired of hearing you going around trying to stir sh1t up. Sounds to me like your hobby is being a keyboard commando, maybe you should take up riding a little more. Different strokes for different folk. What a soap opera, move along.
BTW check out www.1130cc.com for some good info about the VRSC, but don't run your mouth you won't last log over there. Later
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RE: V Rod - Legit Harley or big Mistake... - 4/8/2007 6:45:12 PM
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BTW check out www.1130cc.com for some good info about the VRSC, but don't run your mouth you won't last log over there. Later
That or don't belong to any other forums (guess you better not visit here) or chat with anyone that the head dumb___ Max doesn't like. The politics over there are ridiculous. If your not going to shape up and be a good little boy or girl and follow the direction of someone with an over-imagined "Daddy" complex your not going to last long. I've gone out of my way to support and help that _____ out and because I joined another forum that he didn't like--even though I said nothing bad about him on either forum--he decides to block my IP address.
Say "HI" to your new Dad.
Damn, thought we all were big enough to make our own decisions.
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